Braille Dollar, Whats A Going On?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by tmoneyeagles, May 29, 2009.

  1. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    I can't say I'm in LOVE with this year's commemorative coins, but the braille dollar is looking awfully good :eat:, better than the lincoln dollar, JMHO. :cool:

    Now, these are $41.95 per coin, in proof
    These will have a mintage limit of 400,000, and I'm guessing, the UNC will have more of a mintage, but that is just a guess!

    Now, the 2001 buffalos, had more of a mintage, 500,000 total coins, and they sell at good premiums now, for a 70, and even raw, compared to what they sold for when released

    Now, these coins, won't sell out anytime soon, but they will sell out sometime. So, with these coins having a lower mintage than the 2001 buffalo, should I buy this coin, as an investment, to flip in the next few months, or is this coin more of a coin, that I can just cherish, and won't demand a high premium, in a few years? Your thoughts?
     
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  3. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    the braille coin is aboslutely NO comparrison to the buffalo dollar. so many folks bought the boffalo dollar out of nastalgia for it being the exact same design as the Frasier nickle. I like the Braille dollar, and if it sells out, i never see it reaching the same price as the buffalo dollar.

    Lower mintage or not, price is set by supply and demand... and so many more people want the buffalo dollar then supply can satisfy, hence the huge jump in price.
     
  4. Stupidcoinguy

    Stupidcoinguy Senior Member


    While I won't disagree with you, I do want you to sit and think for a moment about popularity. With this year and next your Brailles WILL NOT be worth more than the Lincolns. You will need to wait a few years for your theory to be proven. I believe current price for a Lincoln is $55-$60
     
  5. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I agree. Value has to do with more than just mintage...it needs demand. The Braille Dollar isn't popular enough to generate the demand necessary to really raise the price. Now, being a lower mintage it might slowly generate value over the long road...but in the short term I don't see this coin being a strong investment.

    As was said before, the Buffalo was bought up like crazy due to nostalgia. Demand was through the roof like it is with the Lincoln. That's what made it so valuable.
     
  6. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Thanks guys ;)
    I think I will hold off on these, for a little while anyways
     
  7. silber

    silber Junior Member

    Many US Commemorative designs are substandard compared to designs from the rest of the world. This Braille design is ugly; face forward depictions rarely come out well on monochromatic media. They should have angled his face like they did with Benjamin Franklin or Abraham Lincoln.
     
  8. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Really? I thought it quite inovative.....
     
  9. jaceravone

    jaceravone Member

    Exactly what Camaro said!

    DEMAND>DEMAND>DEMAND+High Mintage = success = Buffalo Silver Dollar DEMAND>DEMAND>DEMAND+Low Mintage = greater success = 1995W ASE
    No Demand + Low Mintage = First Spouse coins
    No Demand + High Mintage = Pocket Change

    Also T$, if you look back at the history of modern commemoratives, there has only been 4 times that I could find where the UNC outsold the proof. For the $100,000 dollar question.... can you name them? Hint: 3/4 have been half dollars. Proofs are just more popular.
     
  10. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    My counter question... If I answer correctly, do I get $100,000 from you, or is there a committee I need to talk to? :D
     
  11. jaceravone

    jaceravone Member

    You need to talk to Spock, since he holds on to all my money. He told me that he will be more than happy to send you a check. ;) :D
     
  12. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    LOL!!!
    I don't know, spock might change his mind.. :D
    Can't I just take some of your buffalos??? :D
     
  13. jaceravone

    jaceravone Member

    Hmmm .....I'm going to have to get back to you on that one.....



















    OK, I'm back......Nope. :D LOL!
     
  14. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer


    It was worth a try!!!
    Just you wait, that $5 buffalo is almost in my grasp..MUHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! :)
     
  15. jaceravone

    jaceravone Member

    I know we are getting a little topic talking about buffs, but I will be so happy for you when you do get that baby. It will be something well accomplished!

    And yes, I can't fault you for trying. :D
     
  16. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Ahhhh, this thread was dying anyway...
    Lets change this thread to buffalos! LOL

    I have $80 saved up, hoping to get around $30 more for my LP2 sets, after I pay for fees and such
    So around $100, then I get money for good grades (All A's this grading period, and mad 96 on math final, 96 on history final, and awaiting grades of texas assessment of knowledge and skills (TAKS) test, for history and science)
    So I might have near $200, then I'm hoping to maybe sell a little bit more, get to around $300, and bada bing bada boom, I'll be close to my NGC MS69 $5 buffalo!
     
  17. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I meant to mention this in my post as well. The business strike coins are 99.9% of the time minted less. More people buy proofs because they are more attractive. If I was only going to buy one I would buy the proof every time because I think it looks nicer. For this reason, the proofs tend to be a little more expensive to buy from the mint but tend to actually be worth less than their business strike counterpart in the long run.
     
  18. jaceravone

    jaceravone Member

    You know Richie, I feel the same way about proofs. But I have changed my buying strategy when it comes to modern commes now. In the past, I would always buy the proof first because of what you mentioned above then if I had money left over I would buy the unc. But because of the point you made about the proofs typically being worth less, I have now been buying the uncs first and then if I have money left over buying the proofs. This strategy is actually more for the first spouse series than it is for the modern comm series, but would benefit someone who was just buying the commms.
     
  19. Danr

    Danr Numismatist

    I like that
     
  20. silber

    silber Junior Member

    I don't mean the reverse where there is braille but the portrait of Braille himself. Compare it to Germany's 2008 10-Euro coin for Franz Kafka or 2006 20-zloty coin for Gierymski.

    Also Palau has also issued a braille commemorative this year. In that one, Braille's eyes are closed. He doesn't look quite alive there but at least he doesn't look goofy and cartoonish.
     
  21. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    While I don't strongly dislike the obverse, I agree that it would have been much better if it had been designed from an angled perspective. I have seen coins with this front perspective turn out much worse so I think the designer did a fine job making it work. But, an angle would have been better IMHO.
     
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