1909 vdb ddr?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Carlos Arriaga, May 27, 2009.

  1. Carlos Arriaga

    Carlos Arriaga Senior Member

    I though that only the 1964 or 1967 are coming with double eye and double mouth. But check this one and judge for yourself. Beside that there's a possible DDR. I think so. Thank every body for your opinion.
     

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  3. just coins

    just coins New Member

    Nothing significant on this coin to me but some scratches and looks like a little die chip above the U and maybe some very light Machine doubling on the S no double die sorry Carlos.
    JC
     
  4. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    Looks like abrasion doubling on the letters.
     
  5. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    Not a true double die, but some minor doubling, yes. ;) Like JC said, a few scratches and die chips here and there, but nothing significant.

    Still a nice coin though! :thumb:
     
  6. Carlos Arriaga

    Carlos Arriaga Senior Member

    These does not look scratches to me. And the two eyes are there also. Please see with a little more attention.
     

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  7. just coins

    just coins New Member

    What a vivid imagination you have Carlos there's nothing there and i think you are kidding around with us Please put these glasses on and look again ok
    JC
     

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  8. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Carols:
    You really have to buy some excellent reference manuals.

    Start with the current two Cherrypicker editions.

    They have some good references on the differences in DoubleD Dies (different classes) and strike doubling.

    Also, sometimes, don't look quite so hard.

    You will see things that are not there.
     
  9. jessash1976

    jessash1976 Coin knowledgeable

    Just looks like Abe needs some chapstick, Ha, Ha, Ha,...LET'S GO REDWINGS!!!!!!!!!!!:loud:
     
  10. mgChevelle

    mgChevelle AMERICAN

    no no no, guys, i see what hes talking about. its really faint on the pictures. i highlighted what i see, i also see it near the eye. maybe im looking too hard, judge for yourself.
     

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  11. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

  12. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    :goofer: :goofer: :goofer:
     
  13. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    Uhh....never mind
     
  14. just coins

    just coins New Member

    Oh I think i see no:desk: ,i see no i think i see yes,:eek: yes, no, yes ,no no:eek:hya: ,I don't see anything oh yes maybe no no no I see nothing :headbang:.

    JC
     
  15. Carlos Arriaga

    Carlos Arriaga Senior Member

    I'm 100 % sure what I saw, There are triple mouth and double eye. Thank again for your time and judgments.
     
  16. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    Hey no problem, thanks for sharing.
     
  17. Boss

    Boss Coin Hoarder

    Sorry we are teasing you Carlos, but it's hard to believe you are serious. Coin guys are skeptical by nature and your simply reaching hard. Buy some cool coins and ask us to grade them or give opinions on their status. Miniscual die chips and stuff is reaching in the dark.
     
  18. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    you know for some reason I don't think we are getting through to him...
     
  19. jessash1976

    jessash1976 Coin knowledgeable

    To me, it looks like post mint damage. You got to think that after all these years, somebody would have found something similiar to it, and it would have been listed already. Keep looking though, you will find something.:thumb:
     
  20. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Hi Carlos,

    One way to determine if any doubling is to measure the distance between the tip of Abe's nose and the back of the ear and compare with a regular lincoln. If there was doubling in the direction you marked, the distance ( and actually the whole head) would be elongated west, as you couldn't get a doubling of just the mouth/nose in that extreme without the ear and hair also.
    I have my doubts as I can not work out a doubling type ( I, II, III, etc.) where this could have occurred.

    Jim
     
  21. Carlos Arriaga

    Carlos Arriaga Senior Member

    Around the years 1999-2000-2001-2002 I was working in Precision Stamping. By fact I know the area of the hub in charge of making Lincoln's mouth "is sharp"; that's way an xtra strike will be most clear in this area than others. (the eye shape is also a little incuse). This same incidence will be find in the Eye of the eagle of a quarter. I have many quarters with the eye in different locations. Now , the difference between this scratch=mouth. and other real scratches is that. This one has the original shine color of a normal cent. See again this 1964 and tell me if you stiil thinking it's a scratch.
     

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