Stupid Me! ....and Stupid ANACS!

When I submitted this I didn't realize ANACS will only give "NO D" to the die pair 2's. Arrggggggg.....there's no trace of a D on this coin. Should I cross it over to NGC or PCGS to get the true "NO D" label?

 

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I don't even see a trace of another "2" LOL
I don't know, because I don't see the coin in hand, but if you say so... I guess it doesn't matter, just keep trying until you get one label to say 22 NO D.. LOL

 

if it were me, i would crack it out and submit it to PCGS or NGC. but its your coin and your call.

 

If you truly believe it's a 1922 No D, then I'd say submit it to PCGS, that is if they say No D. (But that's me)

Nice coin! :thumb:

 

If you are planning to sell it (ever?), I would resubmit it. However, I would nto be surprised to see you get a G6 coin in stead of a VG coin and you will lose the "Die #1" designation.

 

I'm still trying to figure out how they concluded it was a VG! Maybe my vision is fading along with my youth.
Guy~

 

I still don't even see a second 2!!!!
I'm trying to see one, and I can almost make one out, but I'm getting 1920...

 

1922 weak reverses are amung the poorest struck coins out there. Uncirculated coins rarely have even 1/2 the wheat lines. Obverses are mushy at best. Look here to see a couple unc. samples; http://www.lincolncentresource.com/1922Ddievarieties.html.

 

I took your image and drew the area on the coin to look for your "D". Try NOT to use a loupe as it will obscure the "D". I can make out clearly the left leg and a little of the top loop of the "D" where I marked. Hope that helps. However, in my opinion, from the photos provided and without coin in hand, it looks more like a die pair 4 to me. But that could just be the pics.

 

Looking at that picture more and more, I can see more of the second two now...
And thanks to what you did there, I can see where you are seeing the "D" as well. Maybe ANACS didn't screw up...

 

I thought there were 4 accepted die examples of a No D. If that's the case, I'm surprised that the collecting community has allowed ANACS to get away with only recognizing one of them.

 

There's definately no D present. If you're seeing something in the photo, it's your imagination. Trust me, I've looked this coin over many times over the years using different light, magnification, etc.....there is no D.

The second 2 is extremely weak. You can only see it at a couple different angle with magnification. I honestly think they got the die pair wrong, I always had this pegged at as a die pair 4. Just compare it to the LCR pictures....it doesn't look anything like the die pair 1, but it looks dead-on a die pair 4.

No matter, I'm going to cross this over as I can't stand seeing the "weak D" designation on the label when it clearly is not.

 

Look at the pics and tell me which die pair my coin matches the closest?

 

Isn't die pair #1 supposed to have a die crack on the reverse? I don't see this on yours. But yes, I think yours is a die pair #4.

 

I agree with this, even with my cheaters on!

 

I think there's enough evidence here for a submit to another TPG if you have any plans on selling this thing or are just curious.

 

You can't grade the 1922D's like other Lincolns, in the lower grades you have to grade on wear and not strike. One hint is to look at the rims, on an AG Lincoln the rims are typically gone, on a G Lincoln they can be nearly gone.

 

Thad, just a couple things, if I might. First, Doug (GD etc. ) doesn't grade on strike. Neither do I use that as a criteria (he talked me into it). Neither does the ANA, if you'll just look in the references in the Red Books, both new and old, to their criteria. But, that's a different matter, and I won't go there, herein. And, second, from just the detail I think I just learned in these replies, if these '22s were indeed that weak-struck, overall, I'd say that might explain the extra "wear" some are seeing on your '22 that take that grade under VG (i.e., again, ANA isn't going to "punish" that grade for that weak strike).

 

Okay my eyes were really screwed up this morning looking at another coin , but in NPCOIN's enhancement , I can faintly make out what looks like a 192 (0)