Junk Silver Find, What is it?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Mkm5, Jan 29, 2021.

  1. Mkm5

    Mkm5 Well-Known Member

    Found this is in a grab box at my LCS.

    Thought the reverse was pretty interesting, so got it.

    Can't see a denomination, is it a coin or medal? It has medal orientation.

    Thanks! IMG_20210129_212631.jpg IMG_20210129_212521.jpg
     
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  3. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Depending on size/weight, it should be a crown.
     
  4. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Depending on size/weight, it should be a crown.
     
  5. Mkm5

    Mkm5 Well-Known Member

    It's 38.8mm diameter. Little bit more than a silver dollar.

    Is the denomination on the coin somewhere?
     
  6. Mkm5

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  7. Bradley Trotter

    Bradley Trotter Well-Known Member

    That's a Crown, alright. Here's one from my collection. The reverse design was done by the noted Italian sculptor Benedetto Pistrucci and depicts St. George slaying the dragon. St. George is also venerated by various Christian denominations in both the East and West.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_George_and_the_Dragon

    1896 Crown Great Britain Reverse.JPG 1896 Crown Great Britain Obverse.JPG
     
  8. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Nice find. I'd grade it G+ to VG. As such, it's a $30-ish coin nowadays. (Melt value is $22.78 as I type this.)

    Here's the Numista page for the type.

    Here's the NGC Priceguide page.

    There are two varieties for the 1900 crown, depending on the edge lettering, which should say:

    DECUS ET TUTAMEN. ANNO REGNI LXIII [or LXIV]

    Translation: "An ornament and a safeguard. 63rd [or 64th] year of reign"

    So I guess the LXIV (64th regnal year) coins were struck after June 20, 1900, which was the 63rd anniversary of Victoria's coronation, meaning that any struck after June 20th were in the 64th year of her reign.
     
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  9. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    PS- if you're getting crowns in junk silver, I reckon you've got a good source.
     
  10. Mkm5

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  11. Mkm5

    Mkm5 Well-Known Member

    Awesome, I'll check it out!
     
  12. Mkm5

    Mkm5 Well-Known Member

    Yes, it's been a good source for hunting, although no more AU Morgan's in there!
    I paid $20 for the crown.
     
  13. Mkm5

    Mkm5 Well-Known Member

    It's LXIV.
     
  14. Mkm5

    Mkm5 Well-Known Member

  15. Bradley Trotter

    Bradley Trotter Well-Known Member

    Nope. The best way to tell the denomination of most pre-decimal coins is by size and weight. It didn't exactly become common practice to place a denomination on smaller silver coins until after William IV ascended the throne. Farthings, Halfpennies, and Pennies didn't even have indicators of denominations until 1860. Moreover, a denomination didn't appear on the Half-crown until 1893.
     
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  16. Mkm5

    Mkm5 Well-Known Member

    Interesting, thank you!
     
  17. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    No denomination on it. You could say it was British arrogance at the time - "Everyone knows our money - let the rest of the world put their values on their coins!"
     
  18. Bradley Trotter

    Bradley Trotter Well-Known Member

    Case in point, take a look at the coins issued immediately after the Great Recoinage of 1816.
     
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