My US Paper $

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by bobbeth87, May 7, 2009.

  1. bobbeth87

    bobbeth87 Coin Collector

    Here are some of my US paper $ that I got from Dad. I love the top one, I think it is called an Educational Dollar. And the Sawhorses on page two are really cool.

    Just in the mood to share tonight, my friends don't really appreciate my coins and paper....
     

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  3. TheNoost

    TheNoost huldufolk

    Beautiful. Love the black eagles and the educational notes! Thanks for sharing.
     
  4. bobbeth87

    bobbeth87 Coin Collector

    I really have no clue when it comes to grading paper. So, could someone with an eye for it take a stab at the two black eagles, and then for the fractional. I'm just really curious. With the eagles, you obviously can see quite a difference between the two of them. Thanks.
     
  5. north49guy

    north49guy Show me the Money

    Wow very nice! The educational note is my favorite, I have always wanted one. The Black eagles and fractional are nice. Sawhorses are neat! I am not really good at grading paper yet so I am not gonna embarrass myself and try and guess the grades lol sorry.
     
  6. dursin

    dursin Senior Member

    Hard to give any sort of grade from a small 'group shot' like that, but if I had to give it my best guess, the one on top is VG and the one below would be VF. Hard to tell on the fractional, but it looks VF+, maybe even close to XF.
     
  7. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Any chance of a decent pic or scan of the educatonal note?
     
  8. bobbeth87

    bobbeth87 Coin Collector

    Sure. I'll post a better pic of that tonight. I saw one in similar condition at my local coin shop for $400. I was surprised at its price tag. As much as I love coins, I love these old bills as well!
     
  9. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    nice collection. without a close up shot of the educational note, i dont think its worth anyway near that much. Dealer prices are to be viewed as higher then normal. and by normal, i mean online auctions 'can' be found for much cheaper.
     
  10. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    As anyone here will tell you I am terrible at prices but when it comes to appreciating the work of a master craftsman and the guy's who etched the plates for these notes can be called nothing less :D I am top of the class :high5:
    I realy do love to see the detail that has gone into a design :thumb:
     
  11. bobbeth87

    bobbeth87 Coin Collector

    Ok, by request, here is my educational. It really is quite a terrific bill. I'd love to see one in UNC condition......wow.
     

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  12. bobbeth87

    bobbeth87 Coin Collector

    Here's the better of my two Black Eagle notes
     

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  13. JrCoin

    JrCoin resident Michigander

    Wow. Thank you for sharing. The old bills really put the new ones to shame in regards of artistic expression. I hope my Dad has some paper like that lying around, I think he's just got a basement full of old newspapers!
     
  14. Niel

    Niel Mostly Sane

    Here're pix of a nice UNC '96 $1 SC.
     

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  15. bobbeth87

    bobbeth87 Coin Collector

    Thanks Niel. That is fantastic!!! As already stated, the artistry puts our modern note to shame.

    What is yours worth, Niel, in that condition?
     
  16. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Bob, Niel what can I say other than a very big thank you to you both those notes are stunning works of art :bow: :bow:
     
  17. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper

    Bobbeth...yes indeed that is a beautiful note....you should see Niel's other notes as well! Perhaps he will be as kind to post them again..(the $2 Neil)

    Many collectors really do not like to publicize what there note (s) cost....I once did this and will never do it again.....the best place to get a feel fro pricies on high grade notes like these is http://currency.ha.com/

    Simply sign up and search the Archives.....


    Good luck!


    SGR (RickieB)
     
  18. bobbeth87

    bobbeth87 Coin Collector

    Thanks syngraphographer, didn't mean to breach coin etiquette, I was curious as I am just learning. And thanks for the link!

    What condition is mine in? G? VG? I have no idea. Thanks.
     
  19. Niel

    Niel Mostly Sane

    It's really hard to tell accurately from photos because a lot of the difference between lower grades depends on how the paper has held up. A note that has absorbed a lot of moisture over the years and gotten limp will grade lower than one that with equal amounts of folds, has crisper paper.

    Based on your photos, I would say VG to VG+. I don't see any tears (a good thing) just some fraying along edges which was probably introduced in the way the note was cut from the sheet originally. Over time, the edged deteriorates. The note has significant folds and wrinkles. It looks like it has been through the wash perhaps or simply kept in a wallet absorbing sweat for a long time.
    The note appears pretty limp which in my mind would keep it from grading higher.

    There's an interesting and valuable small booklet out called "United States Paper Money Grading Standards" By: Herbert J Kwart. © 1984 Five Seasons Publishers. Hiawatha, Iowa.
    The booklet goes through grade by grade (using pre-Sheldon 1-70 scale terms) with pictures illustrating typical wear and conditions found on each note.)
    Not sure if this is still in print, but if you can find one it really helps define classic grading standards.

    Note: Third Party Grading Services use a slightly different set of criteria to determine a note's grade, sometimes referred to as Market Grading. This is a cross over from the systems the TPGS use to grade coins. Their grade reflects not only the technical condition of the note, front and reverse, but other factors as well, such as specifics for a particular series. ie Most older large size silver certificates have very narrow or uneven borders as they were hand cut. Same with 1st Charter National Bank Notes, which came in sheets to the local bank.

    Others here on the boards can speak with much greater authority than I on these matters.

    Niel
     
  20. mgChevelle

    mgChevelle AMERICAN

    wow, that education note is now my favorite, the artistry is amazing. thanks a lot for sharing. now i might have to get into paper money collecting.:)
     
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