A beauty of a nickel. Grade?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by bobbeth87, May 7, 2009.

  1. bobbeth87

    bobbeth87 Coin Collector

    This is my only really nice liberty head. It's not a bad coin when you find it in this condition!!!

    What grade would you experts put on this?
     

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  3. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    I'm no expert...

    Far from it, but I'll take a stab at it and see what the real experts think. IMHO, the obverse appears to be in better condition than the reverse. (my eye is drawn to the worn high points on the flowers and leaves on the right side). And, since I can't determine luster very well in this photo, I give it an AU 58/55. Very nice though. Thanks for the opportunity to practice. I wonder what the others will think.....
     
  4. ED TAY

    ED TAY Member

    maybe a MS60 ?

    yeah silent,

    I see the leaf at 3 o clock, AU
     
  5. TheNoost

    TheNoost huldufolk

    If I were to guess, I'd say AU 55 cleaned.
     
  6. Joshycfl

    Joshycfl Senior Member

    I would also assume AU Cleaned.
     
  7. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Little doubt about it - AU details, harshly cleaned.
     
  8. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    Nice die cracks on the obv. AU, with a very bad case of rug burn. (Cleaned)
     
  9. bobbeth87

    bobbeth87 Coin Collector

    How do you tell if a coin is cleaned?

    thanks...
     
  10. bhp3rd

    bhp3rd Die varieties, Gems

    Well you know when you know the way I did it is,

    Well you know when you know the way I did it is, study, study, study, make mistakes, make mistakes, make mistakes, read, read, read, look at coins, look at coins, look at coins, and so on.
    For a quick tutorial try this.
    Swirl the coin under light at arms length look for cartwheel luster to appear as you turn it or an hourglass to show up. Examine the fields of the coin for hairline type marks, compare the coin with others to see if the color is similar, or if it looks "a little to good to be true" - if I were to tell you all I know about coins that are cleaned or not I would be typing for 2-weeks.
    Hope this helps,
     
  11. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter


    aahhh, the magic question...
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It is a matter of experience, but first things first. Primary first is that you must know what a coin looks like when it comes from the mint - the cartwheel luster that has been mentioned. Problem is, many collectors don't even know how to recognize mint luster when they see it. Thus luster is easily, and often, confused with shine that comes from polishing & false luster that comes from whizzing. Then of course there is learning the distinction between full mint luster and partial mint luster.

    Make sure you learn this first, and then learning to recognize a harshly/improperly cleaned, re-colored, or altered coin is much easier.
     
  13. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I sure have a hard time telling any cleaning while the coin is in an album that I assume has a plastic slider on both sides. The plastic rub certainly confuses the surfaces and luster. You might find it will look better if photographed out of the album. The "sliders" on my similar albums are lightly "rubbed" from normal use.

    Jim
     
  14. bobbeth87

    bobbeth87 Coin Collector

    Thanks, and yes it helps. I'll look at this coin out of the album and see if I see some of that. I'll see if I can photograph it as well.

    This sight has been terrific in educating me on my new addiction, I mean, hobby. Thanks.
     
  15. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    The apparent hairlines on the coin lead me to assign a "MS details, cleaned, net XF" grade to the coin.
     
  16. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    p.s. it's too bad too, because the coin is VERY well struck for the issue -- I'd say top 5%.
     
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