Recolored Copper Cents

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by BadThad, May 2, 2009.

  1. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Does anybody know what people use to do this? I've seen a few of them, but have never had motivation or the time to take one into the lab for a full analysis.
     
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  3. TheNoost

    TheNoost huldufolk

    I think its called dellars darkener. Also believe that sulpher paste will do this as well.
     
  4. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I have a couple that I have been told have been recolored. If they have been, they did a great job. The color could well pass for natural red by me. What ever they did was not mechanical. There are not lines on it.
     
  5. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    There are a large number of things used to recolor copper. The most popular is Deller's Darkener. However, just about anything from a potato...to ground matchsticks combined with vasilene...to putting them in your pocket...to handling them a few times a day have been used.
     
  6. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

  7. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    I'm already familiar with the "classic" techniques. I'm wondering more about the underground, "pro" methods that are harder to detect except to an experienced eye.
     
  8. TheNoost

    TheNoost huldufolk

    I just remembered I heard cyanide (sp?) does something to copper coins. I am not advising this, may cause death.
     
  9. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Here is one of the coins I was talking about. In hand, it is more orange than my pix, but I got close.
     

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  10. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Don't use it and especially don't use it on copper. I've experimented with it and it wasn't nice to the test coins.
     
  11. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Interesting, I see some splotchiness around the arm area where it didn't stick. Thanks for posting it.
     
  12. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I cannot prove that anything has been done to this coin, although I suspect that he is right. However, the area that you think was missed is actually more silvery and I do not remember seeing it when I first got the coin. I have no idea just what that means.
     
  13. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Have you tried soaking the coin in xylenes?
     
  14. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I have not done anything to it.
     
  15. bhp3rd

    bhp3rd Die varieties, Gems

    Hi Thad - think Jeopardy, what's another use for shoe polish?

    Hi Thad - think Jeopardy, what's another use for shoe polish?
    Plus dyes, rouge, other cleaners for industrial use - there's about a thousand more I'm sure the old timers knew about.
    Talk about slick Mr. Stockton from KY. could and did repair holed and damaged coins that found their way into PCGS holders undetected - I sent a man up there with an 09-S VDB with a hold in the head, clean through and when it came back you could not find it. He would mix the copper filler with color to match perfectly.
    The old timers knew a lot but they are passing quickly - an old timer once told me he could use a solution of cream of tarter and clean almost any copper without it looking as if it was cleaned by adjusting the solution just so - he passed before I could get the exact method out of him. I've even heard of juice from red pepper plants but I don't know how to do it.
    Probably a million ways including another million we will never know about.
     
  16. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    The silver spots reminds me of what happens when electrolysis is used with a stainless steel electrode and a copper coin is being cleaned, so that's possibly how it was cleaned. :kewl:

    Ribbit :)
     
  17. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns


    WOW! Now, that's what I'm talking about.
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Probably the most undetectable methods involve the exposure of the coins to exotic and common gases for varying lengths of time. Done properly, nobody can tell.

    And no, I will not expand on this any further.
     
  19. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    word to the wise is enough :D just tell us which coins have the biggest market :D
     
  20. coinblogger

    coinblogger Senior Member

    Hey AZ Jack,

    Thanks for mentioning my interview with you!! That article has a ton of great info.
     
  21. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    Yeah! Toad farts! :thumb:

    I won't either! :eek:

    Ribbit :D
     
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