Howdy peeps, Every once in a while I run across a Plate Coin from CoinFacts being sold on Ebay and it isn't someone "borrowing" the pic from CoinFacts. Yesterday, I ran across one and figured I'd share it with ya'll: CoinFacts: http://coinfacts.com/colonial_coins..._ct_coppers/1787_ct_copper_miller_27_a.01.htm Ebay auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110384259139 Look closely and you'll see they're the same coin so if you want a famous coin, go for it. :thumb: I won't be bidding on this one but beware, the seller has a couple others I'm interested in so you'll get a fight out of me on them. Ribbit
Nope! I know the seller and those are his pics but the one's on CoinFacts are not his pics, they belong to someone else (possibly Michael Hodder). Ribbit
I spent time comparing the two this morning and they're identical. The shade differences on the coin are the same, the damage is the same, the wear is the same. I looked for something distinguishing on one, then looked at the other and there it was. :kewl: So the odds of two coins, being damaged in the same way and resulting in twinkies, are not good so it has to be the same coin. Ribbit Ps: Garrett remarked about the seller and I concur. I've bought from that seller several times and will continue to buy from him, as long as you dweebs don't run the bid up on me.
I'm gonna call your mommie and tell on you! Here's another one: CoinFacts: http://coinfacts.com/colonial_coins/new_jersey_coppers/maris_73aa.htm Ebay auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-1787-NEW-JERSEY-M-73-aa-R-5_W0QQitemZ180335413304 The original owner of that was Copper Clem and he must have sold it sometime after providing the pics to CoinFacts. Ribbit
Technically, since they are individual coins, they aren't true plate coins but when an entire series is displayed, via obverse and reverse match-ups, that's what's known as a "plate" and the coins on it are the plate coins, so I use that term when describing a coin used for attributing purposes. Here are some plates: http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinImages/NJ-Copper/NJ-MarisI-ULQ.jpg http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinImages/NJ-Copper/NJ-MarisI-LLQ.jpg http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinImages/NJ-Copper/NJ-MarisI-URQ.jpg http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinImages/NJ-Copper/NJ-MarisI-LRQ.jpg Ribbit
"Plate" is another term for a photograph in a book. A "plate coin" was used as an illustration in a numismatic reference book. Of course, the authors needed the best coin they could find to illustrate a given variety. Many plate coins are nice coins (present coin excepted). A true coin geek is enamoured with books. Knowing this, auctioneers will point out that a certain coin was a plate coin. Some guys get excited that they can own a coin that was used by Noyes, Breen, Cohen etc to illustrate a particular die variety. Sometimes Plate Coins pull a premium.
The term "plate" comes from the use of a copperplate/acid resist method of converting photographs ( a loooonnnnggggg time ago) into printing press photogravure. It gave the best details of a photograph when printed. Otherwise the photos as printed were very coarse. A high quality book took special pride in saying the illustrations were "plates". Of course digital changed many things ........ Jim
If a CT member ends up winning the OP coin, please fess up to it. I'd love to know who ends up with it. And remember, although it ain't in the best condition, it is a R-5 coin so it's worthy of most any collection. :thumb: Ribbit
