Grade this 1950 D Franklin Half

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by tdec1000, Apr 26, 2009.

  1. tdec1000

    tdec1000 Coin Rich, Money Poor :D

    Thanks Coop, I honestly think that it will get into a holder. I again agree with NGC on their grading standards but.....PCGS is where it is at when trying to maximize profits. I will let everyone know what she grades when she comes back. I also have 4 more of these gems just like this one waiting to see what the first one grades.

    My opinion is that high grade franklins and wash quarters are the toughest to grade.
     
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  3. Mojavedave

    Mojavedave Senior Member

    I don't know how you guys get such beautiful shots of your coins. I'm too shakey for close up camara work, so I scan most everything. Regarding your photo, I notice that there appear to be double imagine of the letters on the reverse. Is this correct or is it the angle and lighting that give the appearance ? Also I have many of these Franklins and I have yet to understand what a Full Bell Liberty means. Can someone give me a good explanation ?
     
  4. the_man12

    the_man12 Amateur Photographer

    FBL or full bell lines refers to the lines on the bottom of the liberty bell on the reverse of franklin halves being fully struck and undisturbed. This design detail is often lacking due to strike weakness so it is a semi-rare occurence and coins with FBL command higher prices. The are different opinions even between TPGs about what qualifies as a FBL coin. One only requires the bottom lines, and the other requires both sets of lines (I can't remember which is which). Hope this helps.
     
  5. Doug21

    Doug21 Coin Hoarder

    see post #20
     
  6. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    I love Franklins and I am guessing like many others 66FBL.


    Love the coin!!!
     
  7. borgovan

    borgovan Supporter**

    Dave,

    A tripod or other type of secure stand is the secret. I'm the shakiest person I know, but with a tripod, you can't go wrong!



     
  8. Mojavedave

    Mojavedave Senior Member

    Thanks for the tips you guys. I did view the post # 20 and it is an excellent article.

    I'll try the tripod on a few coins and see what happens. Thanks.
     
  9. CashDude

    CashDude Member

    Try setting your shutter speed to the fastest speed. With mine, I took a picture of a car on a dyno going about 130mph and the wheel and tire were perfectly clear like it wasn't even moving.

    BTW I'll be watching to see what this coin comes back with.
     
  10. bhp3rd

    bhp3rd Die varieties, Gems

    It's a nice 65 would not 66 IMO.

    It's a nice 65 would not 66 IMO. I don't know about full bell lines, or steps or bands - I don't care anout that stuff at all.
    PCGS might murder you on it when it could very well be a 66 - the pop. reports should give you a clearer picture about that.
     
  11. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    MS65. I don't think they will tag it FBL. Nice crack in the bell. : )
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Bit of confusion on that part - you have it backwards. NGC requires both upper and lower lines for the FBL designation and PCGS only requires the lower lines for FBL.
     
  13. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    That may have been true at some point. Having seen a couple of more recently graded by NGC suggests to me , the advantage is there . Just my opinion . But you reply is not unfounded either. So you would venture a 66 FBL or 65 FBL PCGS ?
     
  14. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    as much as I like the coin, I have to say I don't like the hair lines in Ben's hair. They make the coin look cleaned or somehow "enhanced". The absolutely blazing luster isn't helping to ease my mind, either, in fact, it makes me more so suspicious of cleaning. This is one of the most blazing Franklins I have ever seen!!! Had the luster been more subdued or more like most I have seen, I would be more accepting of this color.

    As far as grade, I also think it could get FBLs, but I have seen just miss Franklins before. They are generally best viewed in hand. My grade is 65 FBL if the surfaces are determined to be original.
     
  15. mralexanderb

    mralexanderb Coin Collector

    With PCGS I'll say MS 65 FBL. That is a great looking coin. Too bad it got scraped up on the obverse.

    Bruce
     
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