How do you like this toning?

If that's the case, then there are no "Mint State" coins left. I know it has been said that coins oxidize almost instantly and therefore all coins we see have a thin and invisible oxide layer on them. But, on top of that...any blast white Morgan or Peace Dollar (or any coin from that era) you find has almost certainly been dipped. These coins are made from a reactive metal that won't last 100 years without toning a little. It's true that the rainbow coins are a bit extreme...but any original silver MS coin will have some toning. It's just high school level chemistry.

Here is an example, this 1881-S Morgan isn't rainbow toned and has wonderful luster. But, it isn't blast white. It has a nice natural look to it. It has a touch of toning...now rainbow toning, but there is a little there. Compare it to a brand new ASE and you will see what I mean. A Morgan from this era that is blast white is certainly beautiful but not even close to natural.

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I love the toning on it. Very nice.

I sometimes like toned coins better. Of course, I said "sometimes." But that penny is quite appealing to the eye. I don't see Cents toned like that too often....

 

Oh you want to see junk. Here is junk my friend (And I don't own it).

 

So!

 

Fact indeed and well said! Mint State means no wear, plain and simple, accepted in numismatics since the advent of the Sheldon scale in 1949.

cecilstarcher - If you'd like to start your own grading scale, go right ahead and see how many collectors and TPG's go along with you. LOL

 

WOW, I guess with this bunch a personal opinion is not respected. If we all agreed on everything what a boring place it would be. You guys keep your toned coins, there always has to be place for the refuse of any society, even coin collectors.

 

Wow! While I might not like some of these toned beauties I will agree with lehigh and the others on this. I think toning can be natural.

 

You're welcome to your own beliefs. There are plenty of people here and throughout this hobby who don't care for toned coins. There is nothing wrong with that. But, toning doesn't interfere with the grade of the coin. MS is based on wear. All coins tone naturally...its just a matter of degree based on storage. I personally prefer a natural look to my coins. I would like to have a couple of nice rainbow coins at some point, but for the most part I like my coins with just that normal 100 year old subtle tarnish. If you like blast white Morgan's (which many people do) or whatever coin you make like...there is nothing wrong with that. But, if the coin is 100 years old and looks brand new...it has likely been dipped to remove some form of toning. Again, this is perfectly acceptable in the hobby if done properly.

 

I'm not sure what bizarre universe you are living in where a toned coin is "the refuse" of the coin community.

 

Some people just don't like toned coins. There are a lot of collectors out there. There are a few here. This is a hobby that is great because there are so many options. The unfortunate thing is, sometimes people are very forceful about their opinion which in turn causes the other side to react the same way. I have seen this from both sides of this argument. It has been proven that there is a demand for highly toned coins and therefore they have value. However, there is a large part of his hobby that either won't pay a premium for a toned coin or would rather not have one in their collection. It's totally personal preference. There are plenty of toned coins I wouldn't want...and plenty of toned coins I would.

 

Ahhhh....don't get mad, we're just discussing. I may not agree with your point of view but I still enjoying reading your opinion. There was no name calling or anything...so how about we start over?

Welcome to CT Forums!

 

Back to the subject....I cracked open a tight, SD OBW roll tonight and found this neon baby:

 

Nice coins all you guys. Thad, that 55-S has an interesting die chip in the mm as well as the planchet mix gold.

Cecil, right on, thats the way to make some friends !!!

 

A personal opinion is respected when it is presented as an opinion. Nothing I see in your original post rings as an opinion to me.

This is not an opinion and is presented as fact. Telling young numismatists on this forum that toned coins are not mint state because you are a part of the lunatic fringe of numismatics is wholly irresponsible. Furthermore, you make a statement like that and then don't have the decency to respond to the holes that were shot into your ridiculous little theory. Why didn't you respond. The reason is plain for everyone to see, because you know you are 100% wrong.

Go ahead and put on your blinders on and collect your blast white coins, thinking they are expertly preserved, ignoring for the rest of your life that they also have an oxide layer on the surface and are exactly like the toned coins that you hate so much.

 

Don't worry. I'm a YN but I wasn't convinced.

 

I understand that it is personal preference, but to say that toned coins are refused by numismatists is absolutely not true.

 

I agree. I think sometimes when we feel very strongly about something...we tend to present our opinion as fact. That seems to be what happened here.

 

"How do you like this toning?"

Doesn't do much for me.

The real question is how do YOU like the toning?

 

I know that I like it, but do you think it is more valuable because of it?

 

I'm glad you like it -- that's the most important thing if you ask me.

To answer your question: Unfortunately, no, I don't think there is any premium for this type of toning.