Grade My 1909 VDB

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by CamaroDMD, Apr 22, 2009.

  1. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    So, I'm not that great at grading Lincoln's...so I was wondering what you guys think this raw 1909 VDB grades at. I have my own idea in my head, but I want to see how my grading stacks up to you.

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  3. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I cannot tell for sure if it is AU or MS. So you either have an AU58 or an MS-64.
     
  4. snaz

    snaz Registry fever

    I agree 100% with RLM.
    I'm leaning towards the "no wear" opinion.
     
  5. dermeat1

    dermeat1 Junior Member

    My guess on that super nice specimen would be around ms-63+
     
  6. Harryj

    Harryj Supporter**

    MS 64 BN Nice coin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  7. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    That coin is a solid MS-64 BN by photograding with the possibility of 65/66 in hand. From what I can tell, there's hardly a hit on it....beautiful Lincoln!
     
  8. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Looks like a slider to me.... 63 BN or AU 58
     
  9. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    could go either way. Nice coin and one of them liners that make internet grading impossible. I grade that coin $25, hows that? :)
     
  10. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    p.s. I agree with AJ -- pics make the determination/grading of this coin, in particular, very very difficult. I could envision grades anywhere from 55 to 65.
     
  11. the_man12

    the_man12 Amateur Photographer

    That looks ms to me. I'd say maybe 65 bn.
     
  12. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I was kind of thinking the same thing. I have a hard time telling if this coin has any wear on it. In hand, I don't see any...but then again the coin is fairly brown so it makes it hard to see a luster break for me. But, I'm not very good with Lincoln's.
     
  13. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    I can tell you with 99% certainty this coin is UNC. AU-58 down there's wear evident on the cheek, jaw, forehead and wheat stalks. Also, there will be some obvious hits present, which this coin is lacking. Look at the reverse lettering and the fields on both sides.....even a lightly circulated coin will show hits to those areas, this coin does not.
     
  14. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    That is not completely true. I had a 1917 ACG certified Lincoln nearly full red and nearly hit free - at least fewer marks than the OP's. (See http://www.cointalk.com/forum/t36709/.) I sold it as AU. It was a real pretty coin, but had significant and obvious wear (cabinet friction) all over the face. That coin had obviously never been in circulation, but no one (except some not so great TPG's) would call it unc.

    As to the OP's coin, I see a rub on the cheek and jaw, but not where a normal rub should occur and it does not appear to have rubs at the typical high points. Therefore, I am not sure how PCGS/NGC would handle this.
     
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