A dealer offered me an Italian 1936 XIV 20 Lire, Ultra RARE coin with mintage of only 10,000 with very reasonable price. The coin is in UNC condition. Questions, before I go to buy it tomorrow : Is there fake versions of this coin? Have u heard of any? it's a 20 Grams coin, is it enough to verify that it's authentic, after u get the same weight, I mean if the coin is 20 grams,is it enough to say it's not counterfeit. Because I'm afraid it's fake. But I'm 85% sure it;s not. WHAT IS THE VALUE OF IT IN UNC CONDITION???? What is it's market price? It's been more than a year that I'm in coin collection and this is my first time that I find such a rare coin.I wanna buy it with unbelievable price!! I'm excited
I presume you are talking about 20 Lire Km 81. According to Krause it´s worth USD 4500 in UNC. 10 000 pieces was minted in 1936, 130 pieces in the years 1937-41. However Krause do not warn against fakes. But I would be cautious if I were you.
I agree with the advice to exercise care here. Rare coins have always attracted coin forgers. Is this the coin you are considering: Compare with this picture. http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=243388&AucID=190&Lot=3281 Enjoy, BUT very very cautious!
yes,I'm talking about Km 81 I bought the coin I'm more than 95% sure that it's authentic. It had 19.99 grams of weight instead 20 35.48mm of diametre I paid 250$ for it. It's a super die,but I need to post a picture of it.My camera is not with me now,I will post in 3 days. EDUARD, Now I'm observing very very very well I started to doubt ROMAGNOLI the designer's name, last word, I looks a bit smaller. The eyes of horses,are different. It's hard to see the wood between the two wheels of the chariote The first horse in the reverse,it has two things (eggs_whatever) My horse has one egg :| lool Obverse: very very small hair details are missing The hair detail on the ear It more looks like this PROVA but without PROVA The hair on ear details look like this one.. I don't feel disappointed,but I feel screwed up. I can't believe it's a fake! unbelievable. It's a beautifull DIE! I was fooled by the beauty of the die! I think the dealer was fooled too! He believes it's authentic! He told me that he bought this coin from another coin collector that sold him because he was in need of money??? WEIRD!!!!!!! who sells 3000 dollar coin for 200 dollar or something! I would like to photograph the coin and post here first. FAKEATE or AUTHENTICATE the coin. IF IT's 100% fake,then I wanna give back! If it's 100% real, then I wanna keep it with me. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THE DARKSIDE OF COIN COLLECTION
HAGOP, not to insult your country in any way but Lebanon is well known for producing a lot of extremely high quality counterfeit coins. Your previous posts about some extremely rare coins including a 12 ruble platinum coin is shown to be counterfeit. I would highly recommend you not to buy any "rare" coin until you do a careful research like what you are doing now.
I don't think it's Lebanon, I think it's Syria.I hate them both anyway. 12 rouples was found at my father's grandma's house that passed a way 8 years ago. I believe it's an old counterfeit coin,maybe in 1960's. I believe it's a replica or something like that. people of cointalk,I'm uploading the photos of the coin,finally,unbelivable coin,perfectly faked with very small different details.
this FAKE coin has the same weight and diametre of the authentic 20 italian lire 1936 and yes, this coin is FAKE
