Japanese Occupied East Indies Y#66

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by byrd740, Apr 12, 2009.

  1. byrd740

    byrd740 Numismatist

    I picked this up a few days ago. I paid very little for it and was wondering what everyone thought about it. I don't believe it is real because several raised spots on it is very questioning. But anyway its supposed it be 10 sen dated 1943, made for the Netherlands East Indies. The coins produced were never shipped out to the area and was consequently melted, but a few survived. Well, here it is...

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  3. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    I'm 2500 miles from my reference books, and won't see them until 4/20.


    That said, I don't see anything suspicious. The discolooration is fairly common in that type of coin. I've been looking for one of those for years!
     
  4. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    The coin shown is relatively scarce - easily a few hundred dollars. I have only seen a few examples on the net and one in hand. Good job! The smaller denominations are considered to be relatively "rare". I think there were a few 10 sen struck in 1944 but don't take my word for it.

    I don't believe it's a counterfeit either like what hontonai - I'm sure it's struck in a tin alloy which explains it's poor condition. Tin doesn't survive very well in cold weather. I'm also looking for an example. Good job!
     
  5. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    i cant see te pics for some reason
     
  6. byrd740

    byrd740 Numismatist

    Well the reason it looks so odd to me is that the "corrosion" on the coin is raised instead of inside the coin. And spock1k I don't know why you can't see the pics but here is the link to my photobucket page and it is the last uploaded pic so try that out.
     
  7. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    from what i see i like it. and i wouldnt worry about the corrosion coins in this area corrode in ways u never thought possible. what i would do is measure and weigh the coin and if that is accurate then ur set
     
  8. byrd740

    byrd740 Numismatist

    I would appreciate it if someone knew what the specs are because Krause doesn't list it.:confused:
     
  9. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    forget KM for a minute and post blow ups of your avtaar coin? man that is neat

    cant u find the specs at numismaster?
     
  10. byrd740

    byrd740 Numismatist

    spock1k I did a little tickering with The GIMP on my 1902 cent. :goofer: I am debating whether or not I should darken the denticles. Here is my tinkered photo and the original. Haven't tried numismaster, will do.

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  11. byrd740

    byrd740 Numismatist

    Found it. But it doesn't list any stats. All I have is a free account, so maybe I am missing something.
     
  12. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    i like the tinkered one better :D

    they dont list the dimensions at numismaster hmmm wouldnt be the first time just keep the coin for now for all practical purposes its genuine unless proven otherwise and if i come across and experts in that area ill point them over here
     
  13. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    i like the tinkered one better :D

    they dont list the dimensions at numismaster hmmm wouldnt be the first time just keep the coin for now for all practical purposes its genuine unless proven otherwise and if i come across and experts in that area ill point them over here
     
  14. byrd740

    byrd740 Numismatist

    I appreciate it. As soon as I can I will post the weight(foolishly I left my scales 40 miles away from me). The size is just about a millimetre larger than a US nickel.

    BTW, spock1k, do you think I aught to darken the denticles or leave them be?
     
  15. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    I realy like the 10 sen coin a great find, not seen one like it before :bow:
     
  16. byrd740

    byrd740 Numismatist

    I have finally weighed it. It weighs 3.6 grams and is 22 mm.
     
  17. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    Depending on how accurate your scale is, and the effect of the corrosion, it is probably dead on. The official specs are 3.5g of tin, and 22mm.

    The series is listed in the JNDA catalog as "Military" coins, not "Occupied Territory" coins, so they were apparently intended for use by the occupying troops, not the indigenous population.
     
  18. byrd740

    byrd740 Numismatist

    Thank you so much!:bow: Krause doesn;t list any specs. I just own a cheap set of scales, with a graduation of .1 grams.:)
     
  19. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    leave them be
     
  20. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    better get new ones asap.

    before buying anything

    u need storage
    and u need all the tools that can help determine whether a coin is genuine or not
     
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