Small low grade large cent collection

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by nohope587, Apr 9, 2009.

  1. nohope587

    nohope587 Senior Member

    If you are bored and want something to do.
    Follow the link to my pitiful large cent collection.
    Any comments on grades and or value would be most welcome as I know nothing about this series.

    http://www.mycoins.us/forum/Cents/Cents_Large.htm
     
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  3. Dollar1948

    Dollar1948 New Member

    Why call it pitiful. As a collection is worth something. Quite frankely I enjoyed looking at them and seeing what US Large Cents are all about.
     
  4. commidaddy

    commidaddy Senior Member

  5. FarmerB

    FarmerB Senior Member

    I don't know.
    Looks a lot better than mine.
    It is good to know that as time goes, you will improve the collection;)
     
  6. nohope587

    nohope587 Senior Member

    Thanks Guys picking up the odd coin here and there sure adds up.
     
  7. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    No large cent collection can be called "pitiful". Now they need to be attributed. Let me see if I can find a few of them. Not sure I find any of them, but I will look.

    Large Cents Rule!!!!
     
  8. Mareesey

    Mareesey Member

    I have one that was found at work just lying infront of the registers. Sad thing is someone thought it was a good idea to drill a hole in it so it has a hole :(. Its pretty worn but I still like it.
     
  9. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Here are my opinions on the varieties:

    1817 - N-11
    1819 - N-1 (I see it identified as 1818 really looks like 1819/8)
    1820 - N-9
    1825 - N-9
    1826 - N-8
    1827 - N-11 Can someone check this - this makes it an R-5 coin.
    1832 - N-3
    1835 - N-17 Head of 1836

    Be nice if someone confirmed these.
     
  10. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Shame - but still it is a large cent.
     
  11. nohope587

    nohope587 Senior Member

    Thank you all for investing so much time in my collection.
    Seeing the pictures of the 1818 as opposed to the coin in hand. I have to agree it does look like the 1819/8 in my red book. I have no idea what an 1827 N11 is or what R5 means.
    Time to do some research..

    Thank you once again
     
  12. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    Richard, I will double check Marks findings tonite. He is pretty good at attributing them though. : )

    An R5 Large cent: Simply means that there are 46-60 known examples of the die marriage

    R-1 Common
    R-2 501 - 1250 Known R-6 19 - 24 Known
    R-3 201 - 500 Known R-6+ 13 - 18 Known
    R-4- 161 - 200 Known R-7- 10 - 12 Known
    R-4 116 - 160 Known R-7 7 - 9 Known
    R-4+ 76 - 115 Known R-7+ 4 - 6 Known
    R-5- 61 - 75 Known R-8- 3 Known
    R-5 46 - 60 Known R-8 2 Known
    R-5+ 31 - 45 Known R-8+ 1 Known
    R-6- 25 - 30 Known


    Hope this helps.
     
  13. nohope587

    nohope587 Senior Member

  14. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Thanks Jim, but I know I am not perfect and that is why I ask for someone to double check me(which I will do again now). I also think the 1803 is small date and large fraction for a S-258. Where's toad when you need him. And the braided hair large cents I will skip on - too many varieties on thus puppies.
     
  15. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Okay I now think the 1825 is an N-3. That 6th star is slightly left where the n-9 is right. How could I confuse them - sigh. Now onto the others. Hey - just noticed a second 1835.
     
  16. nohope587

    nohope587 Senior Member

    Would higher resolution pictures help? I reduced these by 60% to save band width.
     
  17. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    And now I think both 1835's are n-7's. Time to wait and see what Jim comes up with.
     
  18. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Not really - with middle date large cents the basics of attributing are the 6th star, and then the position of 6th, 13th, 15th and 23rd leaf on the reverse. Plus position of 10th berry. Sometimes there are other die markers like on the 1827 N-11 a small defect at base of t. It also mentions a delicate scratch between c-a in america, but in most conditions you probably can't see it.

    I am using the united states copper cents book by Howard Newcomb.
     
  19. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    1817 - N-11 I Agree R1
    1819 - N-1 (I see it identified as 1818 really looks like 1819/8) While the 9 looks like an overdate I don’t agree with the placement of S6 in relationship to the headband. But.. then again there is damage there. I do think that the reverse matches so I concur with the N-1 designation here. R1
    1820 - N-9 Agree R1
    1825 - N-9 I think this one is an N-3 R3 Notice the placement of the S6 to headband, the touching of the IB bases. Reverse look at the Small A’s.
    1826 - N-8 I Agree R3
    1827 - N-11 Can someone check this - this makes it an R-5 coin. I see it as a N11 but my book shows it as an R1 coin. According to Wrights book it states the following. Newcombs book list this as R5 on his 6 point scale. N11 accounts for 50% of all 1827 cents and never commands a premium.
    1832 - N-3 Agree R1
    1835 - N-17 Head of 1836 Another Newcomb N number that was disputed. N7 here R1 coin. In later years they have decided that Newcomb had two numbers assigned for the same marriage. Thus the N17 was dropped.
     
  20. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Thanks Jim. I just checked coin facts - it says common for the N-11. And I changed my opinion on the 1825's on the bottom of the first page. The 1835's I could not decide on them so went with the N-17's. Which book are you using? I probably need to get an upgrade for middle date large cents.
     
  21. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    The Cent Book 1816-1839 by John D Wright. I have the Grellman for the later dates.
     
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