i would love higher dpi picks i would love to see the area around the serial! As with the post on the other forum about the serial being fake because it isnt listed on any consensus.... think back a few months on this forum ... remember the previously unknown web note mis-matched serial error thingy that was posted here?? i cant remember exactly what the error was, but i remember ltos fo folks, myself included, at first thought the note was a fake. not every note is listed in a consensus, so there are notes out there that are still to be found. however the note about the serial not being possible on a note from the position mentioned, i dont know about that. .. Numbers might be better to answer that
Thanks Grim... That is one reason I only buy from select Dealers and Auctioneers. Thanks again... RickieB
photoshopped?? I had expressed interest in this note.....was quoted $1,150...is the image(s) indeed photo shopped? Thanks in advance... Jim
too tough to tell with the images provided. If the person selling is a respectible person on the forum, then i would be more interested. if its someone i didnt know... i would require much better images and possibly grading - or even some sort of middle man type escrow untill the transaction is agreed upon by both parties.
Easy to tell: the serial number is a multiple of 4, but the plate position is C. Fake, fake, fake. :headbang:
Thanks Numbers -as always you proved invaluable info!! Little doubt now, and no additional images needed! Skip the fake, and thrice thrash the seller who listed it!!!
You just need to know how the currency is printed, and do a little math. Almost all large-size notes were printed in sheets of four, numbered consecutively down each sheet. So serial number 1 is in position A, 2 is B, 3 is C, 4 is D, 5 is A again, and so on. Every multiple of 4 will land in position D. So if you divide the serial number by 4 and get a remainder of 1, the position should be A; a remainder of 2, it should be B; and so on. Some late large-size notes were printed in sheets of eight, but they were cut in half before the serials were applied. So positions E-F-G-H are equivalent to A-B-C-D respectively. A few series were printed in sheets of three instead, mostly some of the early gold certificates; so you need to look at the remainder when the serial is divided by 3 instead of by 4. All large-size Nationals used a completely different numbering system in which all the notes on a sheet had the *same* serial number (it's a sheet number, not a note number), which means that calculations like this don't work for them at all. Small-size notes dated 1928 through 1935C, plus most of the 1935D series, were printed in sheets of 12 that were cut in half to sheets of 6 before numbering. So divide the serial number by 6 and convert the remainder to a letter from A to F. On the other half of the sheet, positions G-H-I-J-K-L are equivalent to A-B-C-D-E-F respectively. Again Nationals are weird: the 1929 Type I Nationals use sheet numbers the way the large-size Nationals did, but the 1929 Type II Nationals follow the divide-by-6 rule used by other early small-size notes. Beginning late in Series 1935D, currency was printed in sheets of 18. These sheets were numbered very differently, with consecutive serials coming from different sheets instead of running in order down each sheet. Therefore the plate position calculations get substantially more complicated--and you have to know the standard print run length that was used for each series and denomination, which changed from time to time. Beginning with Series 1957 the sheet size is 32 notes instead of 18, but aside from that it's still the same complex numbering system. And the BEP is currently installing new presses that'll print 50 notes to the sheet; we'll have to wait and see whether anything else changes when currency from the giant sheets starts to be released. If you actually want the math-nerd explanation of how to calculate plate positions on modern notes, I can give it to you...but if your eyes are already glazing over from the amount of math in *this* post, then you do *not* want to see that explanation....
I actually found that really interesting Numbers. I never knew how the serial numbers were created. I actually would like to know more! Thanks!
I got it. I would also like if you would post the "math-nerd" calculations for modern notes. I assure you, I can handle it. Thank you.
