Yet another 1836 BHD showed up.

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Jim M, Mar 27, 2009.

  1. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    Got this in the mail today. 1836 O-107 R4. XF-40.



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    The obverse was struck using Obverse Die 4-s2. This was the second and last use of the die. It was first used on the O-106.

    The reverse was struck using Reverse Die F. This was the second and last use of the die. It was first used on the 1836 O-108.

    (1) The obverse, just like the O-106a, has a granular surface with a pronounced roughness around the date and the last four stars.

    (2) The arrowhead is broken under the second claw from the right and shows a knob at this break.

    (3) Some specimens show a dot or lump left of the upper serif of the second T in STATES
     
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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Jim
    nice piece.

    Is it just me, or do you find these (1836) and the 1834's tough to identify?
     
  4. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Nice coin Jim. I personally find several of the dates hard to identify - more so on the later dates.

    Jim - maybe you can help me with this over at coinzip. I am trying to find out what the die chip looks like.

    Thanks
     
  5. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    Frank, the key to attrib the 1836's is the positioning of the 6. Watch the position of the 6 in relation to S7. Take a straight edge and run it from the backbone of the 6 up to S7 and you will see what I am talking about. 2nd and the most obvious is the T - I relationship. The 1834's are another story. They are just plain tough to get especially in the lower end grades. Takes time and going through hundreds of them to get it. Funny, I have the most trouble with the 1827's, to dang many of them. If you ever have questions about the 1836 attrib, let me know and I will get you in touch with the guy that knows this particular year better then anyone that I have ever talked to. ( I purchased this coin from him )
     
  6. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    Mark, The first two die chips are there and without question the ones that are being talked about by Parsley. The die crack that you have focused the pic on I do believe is what the author is referring to as well. Based on what I am seeing in your photos, I would say that the coin is the O-104a.

    Just so you know. There is no mention of the "a" variety in the Overton 3rd edition, but it is mentioned in by Parsley. I don't have the Doc Peterson book yet, but am told its a must get. (its on my list right after the Gellman book on Large Cents)

    Hope this helps. Very nice looking coin by the way. :thumb:
     
  7. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Thanks Jim it makes me feel better about my attribution.
     
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