1828 Half Cent (13 stars)

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  1. Brokencompass

    Brokencompass Member

    I got my first half cent trading away 150 of my common forgein coin collection. oops...

    I am now trying to grade it and was wondering if the way I am interpreting the scrols are correct.

    As per the book VG 8 is Liberty entirely visible on hair band and lower curls worn. I think Liberty is almost visible. What do you think?

    Thanks.
     

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  3. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    I think it could go into the F-15 zone, possible VF-20! :)
     
  4. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    Congrats! It's a C-1, R-3 (Scarce) Variety! :)
     
  5. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    I think it may be vf, or close to it (star centrils mostly visible). Looks nice and original!
     
  6. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    This is a tough grade, and I've been studying this coin in the ANA guide over the last few days. My best guess is that this coin is a VF-30. It is certainly better than a VF-20. I could use a better picture.. In vF-30 the Obverse hair ribbon is distinct and hair is worn from the back of the head to the temples, but shows many details. That seems to describe this obverse. Slight flatbess shows in curls of the shoulder. Your coin seems to exhibit that as well. LIBERTY is strong and stars have full detail. Your stars have points and this is where your coin gets difficult to grade.

    On the reverse the bow and ribbon ends are worn but clear. That would be correct on your coin. Example photos are on page 56 of the ANA grading guild. I believe it is VF-30.
     
  7. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    in an F12 stars have no central details. This is better than that and the hair curls also are very distinct. Unless this coin has been tooled, it is actually close to an EF40 but there is too much overall wear on the curls.

    Ruben
     
  8. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    I was giving a harsh, PCGS grade :) My grade would be a strong VF-30 :D
     
  9. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    PCGS under grades? They usually over grade as compared to the ANA guild.

    Ruben
     
  10. Brokencompass

    Brokencompass Member

    Thanks everyone. A lot of information, I have to get me bigger grading guides :)
     
  11. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    try the ANA grading guild
     
  12. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Sharpness of a VF-20 dark and finely porous/corroded Net F-12
     
  13. Fish

    Fish Half Cent Nut

    IMHO, Conder's nailed it as usual.
     
  14. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    There is no way I could go VF on this half-cent. As Conder said... NET F-12, and that is about right IMHO.

    Now if it is a good variety, I can't tell, but I would suggest that you check into that. Some of these varieties bring high dollar price tags.

    Speedy
     
  15. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    My question is, "Would a major TPG grade this coin?"

    My experience is that they don't like dark toning because they can't tell if it's hiding something.
    I've had at least two coins body bagged for that reason.
     
  16. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Its a miserable photo but show me where you see the corrosion.

    Ruben
     
  17. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    VF 20 or 25 details, corroded, net VG 10
     
  18. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    The coin is corroded all over the coin on both sides. Likely spent some time in the ground and was subsequently cleaned/recolored from the looks of the coin.
     
  19. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    0% chance, IMO.
     
  20. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    p.s. still a cool coin -- please don't get the wrong idea from my prior (gruff) posts. But it is what it is.
     
  21. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Good detail for a coin from the ground!
     
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