World silver crown-size type coin collectors?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Ag76, Feb 6, 2019.

  1. PaulTudor

    PaulTudor Well-Known Member

    There's a similar case with the 1737 Hall taler, Karl VI, some have no die number and other pieces have numbers from 1 to 5, from my observation.

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  3. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Picked up these two 2000 Reis crown sized coins from Brazil. Seller’s pictures, as they have not arrived yet. They look in the low AU range. One has nice original toning (the 1852).

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  4. Chris B

    Chris B Supporter! Supporter

    Picked this up in the Harlan Berk bid/buy sale. It's outside of my normal collecting focus but I like, that's the most important thing.

    Denmark 1711 CW Krone

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    Obverse: Horseman to right
    Obverse Legend: FRIDERICVS • IIII • D • G • REX • DAN • NOR • ...
    Reverse: Small crowned arms in double order chain with divided date below
    Reverse Legend: DOMINUS MI HI ADIUTOR •

    Ruler: Frederik IV 1699-1730
    Note: Dav. #A1290

    Composition: Silver
    Fineness: 0.6710
    Weight: 22.2720g
     
  5. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    Prussia Vereinsthaler
    18.52g
    0.5359ASW
    32.5 mm diameter
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  6. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    According to Bellesia (Ricerche su Zecche Emiliane - Guastalla), the reason was "to rationalize the use and to maintain the same coupling of the dies on the obverse and on the reverse."

    I doubt if anyone has all 6. They are all rare and, according to Bellesia, only two with 4 are known, one being in the Museo Nazionale Romano di Roma. There are also varieties with P & D and P & A instead of numbers.

    Paris von Lodron, Archbishop of Salzburg, struck Talers in 1623 with die numbers from 1 to 7.
     
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  7. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    Austria Archbishop of SALZBURG Paris von Lodron Reichstaler 1623 (with die number 2 & 1681 c/m)

    The die number 2 is just to the right of the throne on the rev., at about 3h.
    The countermark (16S81 over 2-field Salzburg arms (lion rampant & horizontal bar, divided) is also on the reverse, at about 10h. In 1681, under Archbishop Max Gandolph Graf von Kuenburg , at a time when a lot of below standard coinage was circulating (the Second Kipperzeit), it was decreed that all Guldiner and 1/2 Guldiner circulating in Salzburg should be counterstamped to guarantee their value, for a fee of 1 Kreuzer for Guldiner and 2 Pfennig for 1/2 Guldiner. Due to the fee, only a small number of coins were submitted and the order was repealed in 1682.

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  8. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    I liked it. And I'll repeat, I like it!
     
  9. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    Thank you. I like it too.
     
  10. Chris B

    Chris B Supporter! Supporter

    Far from perfect but I picked this up recently for a bargain-basement price. I already had one but couldn't pass it up.

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    Harz. AR Tauftaler – Baptismal Taler - Damaged

    Diameter: 52mm
    Weight: 29.2 g

    Zellerfeld mint; Rudolf Bornemann, mintmaster
    Dated 1697 RB

    Obverse: St. John the Baptist kneeling right, baptizing Jesus Christ standing facing in River Jordan, hands crossed over breast; dove of the Holy Spirit and radiate name of God above
    Reverse: Biblical passages in ten lines

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  11. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    Baltic States LIVONIA & ESTONIA Tsarina Elizabeth I of Russia Livonaise of 96 Kopecks 1757

    The Russian Empire conquered Swedish Livonia during the course of the Great Northern War and acquired the province in the Capitulation of Estonia and Livonia in 1710, confirmed by the Treaty of Nystad in 1721. Peter the Great confirmed German as the exclusive official language. In 1756 Tsarina Elisabeth I joined an international coalition against Friedrich the Great of Prussia and moved troops into her Baltic provinces, where the ruling class were still largely Germans. In an effort to displace the foreign coins circulating there, she struck "livonaises", special coins for Livonia & Estonia. These coins were not successful and were withdrawn after quite a short time.

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  12. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Picked up this Un Sol 1894 crown sized Peruvian silver coin, for a really good price. Looks cleaned to me, but still has nice detail, probably a solid high AU details. May even be MS details. Hard to tell, with the cleaning marks.

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  13. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    Not strictly a coin but a commemorative medallion - but Crown size and interesting:
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  14. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    Austria-Hungary ESTERHAZY Nikolaus Josef Konventionstaler 1770

    Paul Esterházy , soldier and statesman, was made a prince of the Holy Roman Empire by Leopold I in 1687. He was also granted the mint right but his grandson Nikolaus Josef was the only Esterhazy to use it.

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  15. Chris B

    Chris B Supporter! Supporter

    My first non-German Wildman coin.

    Denmark 1846

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    Obverse: Head of King Christian VIII facing right. Small crown as mintmark below head and engraver's initials on neck-cut.
    Obverse Legend: CHRISTIANVS VIII | D:G:DANIÆ V:G:REX / H. C.
    Translation: Christian VIII by the Grace of God, King of Denmark, of the Wends and the Goths
    Engraver: Harald Conradsen
    Reverse: Crowned grater shield with Arms of Denmark and its territories (adorned with the collar of the Order of the Elephant) held by wildmen armed with clubs at sides. A wide crowned mantle is behind shield and supporters and also divides value above. Date below shield with mintmark at sides.
    Reverse Legend: 1 SPECIES / V. 1846. S.
    Engraver: Harald Conradsen

    Composition: Silver
    Fineness: 0.8750
    Weight: 28.82g
    Diameter: 38mm
     
  16. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    FRANCE Louis XIV Ecu "carambole" 1685 Paris mint 41.5 mm 37.29 g

    The Franco-Dutch War (1672-78) ended with the Dutch Republic intact but with France having annexed significant territories in the Spanish Netherlands, especially a large part of Flanders, In 1685 Louis XIV decided to strike special coins for Flanders to replace the foreign coinage, much of it poorly struck worn Spanish reals, which circulated. An edict issued in Chambord in September 1685 called for the striking of ecus with a value of 4 livres or 80 sols tournois, at 6 1/2 to the mark., much heavier than French coinage. Since a new mint in newly conquered Lille was not ready, the first coins were struck in Paris, starting on September 28 1685, and in Amiens.

    I do not understand why this coinage is called "carambole", a term first used in the 19th century. Carambole, apart from being a fruit (carambola in English), refers to the red ball in billiards or, by extension, a form of billiards using one red ball and 2 white balls. I would welcome an explanation of why this word is used for the French Flanders issues which in their day were called Ecus de Bourgogne (Burgundy) or Ecus de Flandre (Flanders).

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  17. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

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    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

  19. PaulTudor

    PaulTudor Well-Known Member

    1671 Braunschweig death taler

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  20. Bas078nl

    Bas078nl Your man for Dutch Provincial coinage

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    If i may introduce this fine example.

    This is my Prussian Doppelthaler from 1845, an absolute unit and a half of a coin!

    I paid €45 for it (with a little discount) and is currently except a medal the largest coin i own! All be it cleaned an dented in spots, its still a great example of what a true crownsize coin can be like!
     
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  21. Chris B

    Chris B Supporter! Supporter

    I didn't intend to buy this but the more I looked, the more I liked. This design has always been appealing to me. This one has a lot more luster than the photos show.

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    Albania 1926R 5 Franga Ari
    Weight: 25.00 g
    Composition: 0.900 Silver
    Diameter: 37 mm

    Ruler: Zog I
    Obverse: Head of King Zog I facing right
    Reverse: Man with plow left, value below
    Edge Lettering: FERT FERT
    Engraver: Giuseppe Romagnoli
     
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