Is there something wrong with this Morgan ?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by weryon, Mar 16, 2009.

  1. weryon

    weryon World traveler - In Thailand

    So what is up with this Morgan , was it re-toned or something ? It's a 1892S if you can't see it on the pic but that's not relevant to what I posted this for... can you see the toning that's not really cornering the top of liberty's head and the eagle's ?


     

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  3. walterallen

    walterallen Coin Collector

    From the picture the coin looks harshly or improperly cleaned. What you're calling toning maybe chemical burn. Of course I could be totally wrong.

    Allen
     
  4. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    I'd say harshly cleaned. Look at the outlines around all the devices.
    Guy~
     
  5. raider34

    raider34 Active Member

    My first thought was it's a counterfeit, but my not too sure better pics would help. If it's not a fake it has definitely been harshly cleaned. Btw is it a 1892 S or O ?
     
  6. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    The coin does have a really strange look...
     
  7. raider34

    raider34 Active Member

    Oops I didn't see you said it was a 92 S :eek:. That makes me think even more that it's a counterfeit. The 1892 S, just like the 1893 S is heavily counterfeited. Just my opinion though.
     
  8. If you want to check if it is counterfeit, weigh the coin. It should be very close to 26.73 grams.
     
  9. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    looks harshly cleaned to me
     
  10. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    92 s seems an awfully common coin....why would anyone counterfeit this date? 93 S I would agree with.
    Guy~
     
  11. raider34

    raider34 Active Member

    The 92 S had a relatively low mintage (around 1,200,000). In mint state the coin is very expensive, even in EF its worth around $350.
     
  12. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    If I was going to counterfeit Morgans I wouldn't even consider faking the 93-S. It only comes from one die pair and it's diagnostics are very well known. That makes it very hard to fake. But with something like the 92-S it has a significant value and it comes from several different die pairs and most people would not know all the diagnostics of all the die pairs so you aren't able to look at one or two spots for diagnostics and say yes or no. It makes you much more likely to be able to pass off more of your fakes before they are discovered.
     
  13. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    #1:
    It looks like a 1892 O!
    #2: If you have to ask: Is there something wrong with this Morgan ?
    Then you already know the answer.

    [same for when someone asks: Is this unc? If you can't tell, then it 99.99999% of the time is not.]
     
  14. quartertapper

    quartertapper Numismatist

    I don't think this is counterfiet from the pictures provided, but I'd weigh it anyway. Secondly, this coin looks to have been cleaned with chrome polish or some type of harsh abrasive. If you bought this recently, I hope you didn't pay a great deal or you may have to chalk it up as a learning experience! If so don't worry, it happens to us all at one point or another.
     
  15. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    On the one hand, that's a very interesting and informative post, and I thank you for the information. I wouldn't have thought of it that way.

    On the other hand, I feel like I'm getting a lesson in counterfeiting from a pro.:bigeyes:
     
  16. Danr

    Danr Numismatist

    I'd give $10 for it.
     
  17. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    I cannot even begin to advise or comment on authenticity on these pics, but I can say this is a good lesson in never dip a circulated silver coin. This coin looks burned, chemically.
     
  18. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Indeed
     
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