Odd? Weird?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Carmella, Jun 2, 2005.

  1. Carmella

    Carmella New Member

    Today while at my bank I decided to ask for a roll of Sac dollars. I've never actually seen one in hand, just pictures. Are they just very unpopular?? Any way my teller told me they didn't have rolls of just the Sac $ but they were mixed with SBA dollars. I asked her to give me two rolls just for the hell of it.

    here's where it gets weird............both rolls...........exactly 13 SBA and 12 Sac. Every single Sac $ was minted in 2000. No later years at all. Have these rolls been sitting around that long??? I thought it was kinda cool either way.

    So I sorted through the Sacagawea dollars. I actually like the idea of $1 coins over bills, but thats just me. I found one coin that looks like it either tarnished badly or something, and it has a odd circle cut into it. Some of them had a very nice finish on them. I just wanted to post the pix and show you the difference between them. All in all, a boring visit to the bank turned into an interesting day. This may be the beginning of something.
     

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  3. Spider

    Spider ~

    well, Sacs were only released in 2000 and 01 for circulation and the 2000 over populates the 2001 and they are not rare

    With the 13 Sbas (1 more than the Sacs) I think the Sba will stick around for a long time due to its lack of use and will sit in banks for a great time to come
     
  4. Carmella

    Carmella New Member

    That explains it!! I thought they were still minting them for general circulation from 2000 to today. I didn't think they were rare, just odd that there werent any other years in the rolls. :D I have much to learn here :rolleyes: . I may save a few of them but I will be happy to spend the rest. Thanks for the info.
     
  5. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Save the one with the circle until you're absolutely positive that it isn't a mint error.
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Now that circle is interesting - never seen anything like it. Whatever it is or whatever caused it - it certainly appears that it was present on the planchet before the coin was struck. Which would make it a genuine error. If it were me - I'd have this coin looked at in person by a profesional ;)
     
  7. Carmella

    Carmella New Member

    Thanks for the advice Dave. :) I was planning on keeping that one anyway, it's so different in color from the others.

    GD, when you say "professional" do you mean a coin shop dealer?? We have only one here in town and I've yet to go in there (they keep worse hours then bankers) Maybe I should call them and make an appointment??

    Thanks again, everyone for your input, I love reading this board!!!! :D
     
  8. dollarcrazy

    dollarcrazy New Member

    Just my 2 cents worth, I believe the ring is galling from a coin rolling machine.
    I hope it's something more perhaps it is...
     
  9. Spider

    Spider ~

    ditto, i get many coins that look like that from the machine
     
  10. jimmy-bones

    jimmy-bones Senior Member

    I tend to agree with dollarcrazy. I've seen many coins with a similar ring in the same position found on your SAC...caused by bank counting machines. Hovever, my eyes are plying tricks on me, sometimes your photo looks like the ring might be raised. If it is what GD said...if it's "scratch like", its from a counting machine
     
  11. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    Yeah, I've seen lots of them that resemble that. Do you remember if that one was on the end of the roll?
     
  12. GaryBurke

    GaryBurke Senior Member

    Speaking of Sac dollars, I went into a local bank yesterday and turned in a couple I have been carrying around.

    The clerk looked at them and asked me if they were Susan B. Anthony dollars. What chance do medal dollars have if even bank clerks don't know what they are?

    :) :)
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I considered that this was after mint damage - but are you missing the obvious ? Take a look at that pic again. It certainly appears to me that the circular area around the outer edge of the coin is lower than the central part of the coin. If it was after mint damage - then why are the legends still there - on BOTH sides of the line formed by the circle ?

    If the circular line was formed by something scraping away the metal after the coin was struck - don't you think the top half of the letters in the legends would have been scraped away as well ? But they are not - in every case - the full letter is quite visible & raised on both sides of the line.

    Now I could be completely wrong - but I fail to see how.
     
  14. Spider

    Spider ~

    GD, i get coins like that all the time. When i get rolls from the bank next time, Ill show u that the machine scratches the coins just like that
     
  15. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Doug - have you considered the common optical illusion in photos like that where sometimes the inner circle appears to be raised, other times it appears to be sunken, but actually the circle is an incuse mark and the surfaces on both sides of it are level?

    I'm with Spider on this one. :D
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Well Roy if both sides are level - then I would agree 100% that it is damage.
     
  17. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    Looks like a circular scratch made by a rolling machine, Doug.
    But you're right. We are only looking at a picture, and not the actual coin.
    Maybe the OP can provide some insight.
     
  18. Carmella

    Carmella New Member

    Jody I will try to take a better picture tomorrow and post it. From my side of things, I am totally new to all of this, and to my eye, it looks more like a cut straight around the coin, but the coin is more tarnished in the middle then it is outside the circle, making it look like there is a difference in depth inside/outside the circle.

    I don't recall if this particular coin was on the end of the roll, I thought both rolls had a SBA at each end, but I am not 100% sure. The circle is the exact size of a nickel if you put it on top of the Sac $.

    I'll see what I can do with my camera tomorrow with some better lighting. Thanks for the interest though! :)

    Carmella
     
  19. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    That's what made me suggest that it looks like a circular scratch, made by a rolling machine, and the coin was on the end of the roll. The middle of the coin would have been exposed to the outside atmosphere, whereas the area underneath the roll's end crimping would have been protected from elements that might cause the coin to tarnish.

    But again, just guessing. I really don't know for sure.
     
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