Unknown UK coin

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Omar, Apr 1, 2004.

  1. Omar

    Omar New Member

    Hi there , i am looking up some details on a coin for my father , i think its some kind of penny or half penny, i have looked on some webesites that have many that look alike but not the same , i was wonderin if any of you experts could help me out
     

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  3. National dealer

    National dealer New Member

    I moved your thread to the Euro group as some of these users are far more experienced in UK coins. I am sure one of them will be able to assist you in identifying this coin.
     
  4. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    Welcome Omar,
    Can you post a picture of the other side, and provide the diameter of the coin?
     
  5. sylvester

    sylvester New Member


    Well that's a Victorian coin, either a penny, a halfpenny or a farthing, and is dated between 1838-1860

    But i need a diameter and an obverse pic.
     
  6. Omar

    Omar New Member



    Sure , hers a pic of 1 penny next to it
     

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  7. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    Looks like a one penny coin.
     
  8. sylvester

    sylvester New Member

    i think it's an halfpenny actually.
     
  9. sylvester

    sylvester New Member

    A penny of this period is 34mm diameter

    A halfpenny is 28mm
     
  10. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    I will certainly yield to Sylvester's knowledge on British coinage.
    As I still don't know the exact diameter of the OP's coin, I was comparing the coins in the following links, to make my identification:

    HALF PENNY

    PENNY
     
  11. National dealer

    National dealer New Member

    Now I am going to take a shot in the dark on this one. Looking at the link for the Half Penny Jody provided, the curl on the hair is considerbly different. Both dated 1841. Now if I were to draw a conclusion based strictly on the photos, I would say this is not a half penny. Too many differences. Now of course, I have no idea if any varieties exist on this issue.
    So I will pass the torch back to sylvester
     
  12. sylvester

    sylvester New Member

    looking at the date between the two, i think you may be right... copper not being my area. I have a feeling that picture doesn't show them exactly side by side, i think the dimensions of each picture must be different.
     
  13. sylvester

    sylvester New Member

    so it's probably a penny, (bear in mind i wasn't looking at a picture when i came to my orininal assumption... i was doing it from memory, what little of it bothers to even consider such a low species as copper)
     
  14. Omar

    Omar New Member

    so is this kinda a rare find ? or just of the mill ?
     
  15. sylvester

    sylvester New Member

    Run of the mill i'm afraid as it's a low grade specimen. But you will be pleased to know that it's not as common as the later bronze stuff minted after 1860. I bet you could get a few few quid for it, but nothing over a fiver.
     
  16. kuhli

    kuhli title not chosen

    Syl,

    How long was this the standard size?? I have an 1835 sumthin that I am not sure of. Also, what is the diameter of the farthings???

    Scott
     
  17. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    The diameter of an 1835 Farthing, would be 22mm.
     
  18. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    Here's some info from the web:

    Farthing, copper 1821-1860 = 22mm

    Farthing, bronze 1860-1956 = 20mm

    Halfpenny, copper 1825-1860 = 28mm

    Halfpenny, bronze 1860-1967 = 26mm

    Penny, cartwheel 1797 = 36mm

    Penny, copper 1806-'07 = 35mm

    Penny, copper 1825-'60 = 34mm

    Penny, bronze 1860-1967 = 31mm
     
  19. sylvester

    sylvester New Member

    someone beat me to it! phew...
     
  20. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    I thought you might still be asleep. I know you live on a different continant.
     
  21. sylvester

    sylvester New Member

    Well it's currently going towards 19.10 hours where i am (or 7.10pm if you prefer)

    So i guess i'll be either 5 or 6 hours ahead of most people on here.
     
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