1958 D AU-? Possible DDO please help

Good afternoon cointalk. I found this in a roll of AU 58D Wheats, and while it looks like there may be some MD in the IGWT, the date shows what looks to me like a genuine spread. I have searched VV and Wexler's lists and found nothing related to it, so I'm here to ask for help from people more experienced than myself. Pardon the picture quality, I did the best I could but these shiny pennies are a turd to take good pictures of.

 

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Glad to see you stayed! All I see is mechanical doubling...

 

It was a long thoughtful decision. There are not many resources for this and although there are other forums, their setups are clunky and user hostile. Plus they all failed the test question.

 

Is something going on with the mintmark? A little too out of focus and too much glare for my eyes. Have a look.

 

I thought MD had to be flat and shelflike? I see spread lines on the date, running rom the top left of the 9 down through the countour, most prevalently on the 5 and 8 though. Here is a picture of another penny from the roll that appears normal in all ways to me for comparison. Lmk if it helps you see what I see and why you feel it is machine doubling so I can add the information to my pool please and thanks!

 

The mint mark appears normal to me, I don't even see dings on it. I did just find this on Lincoln's throat though!

 

I could be wrong.... Maybe @Fred Weinberg or @paddyman98 could help me out here?

 

I don't see anything that stands out, maybe some minute doubling but nothing out of the ordinary, I don't see anything wrong with the MM at all! better luck next time!

 

Too much zoom there. Could be a clash but I can't really make anything out. The glare in one shot above hinted at a potential RPM.

 

There's nothing wrong with the mintmark, only the date. I can see it plain as day I just can't seem to get good enough pictures. Oh well

 

I see what looks like some die cleanup perhaps to remove a heavier clash. That may have done something to the devices.

 

The mint mark appears to have a split upper serif, check CopperCoins for an RPM.

 

It looked like it to me too...checked Coppercoins first then Variety Vista. Needed better shots to dial it in...if it is indeed split.

 

I'm not seeing any more than DDD, but then my old eyes don't really bother to look for doubling unless it is obvious with my naked eye. I bet that roll was fun to go through, with all of those old shiny cents.

 

I hadnt

I hadn't noticed the serif until you mentioned it. I am working right now but as soon as I get home I will do my darndest to get better pics. Thanks!

 

This is the best close up I can get. I had to use a magnifying app so it is a little grainy but it shows the separation as clearly as I can get it to. The shiny-ness of the coin makes it almost impossible because of the glare and I have used no less than 10 different light sources and lighting techniques.


EDIT: I have also been unable to match it based on the references on doubleddie.com or coppercoins (or anything else google could find), but it most closely resembles Wexler's WRPM-001. Is this possibly a new variety?

 

Check out Advanced search Coppercoins as they have dozens of pages for this mint mark. An inexpensive USB microscope from AmScope and editing software will help with pics.

 

Rabbi - less magnification...not more. You can see the pixelating so you are way beyond what we could use realistically. Take a photo with softened lighting that captures the field, date, and mm from about the chin down and the bowtie over.

 

Kevin, with all due respect, I have formal training in film techniques. I used as many of the lighting techniques as I possibly could based on the equipment that I have available. I just can't get a better photo with what I have. Thanks anyway.

 

Take a look at your third photo. That's what I used to generate my first question to you. It looks like a split on the upper serif. But it's not crisp enough to make a full assessment. That prompted me to look first at Coppercoins (my preferred variety site for cents) and when I didn't see anything jump out at me, I went to Variety Vista. 014 looks interesting, but the placement of the MM seems off relative to the photos you supplied. And I'm not even sure that you have an MM variety, so that prompted my questions to you. To attribute a cent, you may have to use a few different resources since they aren't all alike. We can help with that.