Anyone else bid on any coins from the new auction house Münzhandlung Dr. Dominik Elkowicz 3

So you don't believe that it's possible to trace how closely related you are to other people? Nobody who knows anything about DNA, let alone any geneticist, would dispute anything I've said about endogamy. Your reference to propaganda sounds very much to me as if you're straying into political territory. But even the people with different political views from mine on certain issues differ (without any scientific basis, in my opinion) about the genetic relationship of Jewish people now to Jewish people 2000 or 3000 years ago, because the scientific evidence doesn't suit their political views. Nobody, even those people, disagrees about how closely related Ashkenazi Jewish people today are to each other. in the sense of all being descended from a relatively small group that lived in Europe approximately 700 years ago. Propaganda has nothing to do with it, because the propaganda of those who disagree with me is focused on a much earlier time period.

Or perhaps you're one of those people who doesn't believe at all in DNA and genetics and the nature of our relationship to each other and other species? But I won't argue with you further, since you seem convinced of your viewpoint. And none of it has anything to do with numismatics!anyway!

 

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I hope we can respectfully disagree on a non-numismatic point? I certainly hope this is the case.

 

Your response seems to point to finality .. disappointing and surprising. But not coin related so I will just move on.

 

I'm happy to respectfully disagree, but it's very difficult for me to understand your objection to the extremely non-controversial proposition that endogamous populations are both more closely related to each other, and easier to trace genetically, than non-endogamous populations. Especially because you don't specify the basis of your objection. But since none of this has anything to do with numismatics, I will gladly agree not to talk about it anymore.

 

Well @DonnaML WHY Donna, WHY? I respectfully asked for an end to this conversation in friendship - but you didn't really let it go did you? You then alluded to some sort of beliefs I may have... but you have no proof of. This is really unacceptable and I am disgusted that you are trying to paint me with the brush of antisemitism... my point is around genealogy and DNA and has NOTHING to do with religion. What are you are trying to do? Why would you do such a thing? Your family history is not an excuse to allude to something like this without evidence.. its not fair. I am a father, a husband and a good man... and I am here to discuss coins and their history.

 

Since you didn't say anything about why you objected to a very uncontroversial point about Ashkenazi Jews and the genetic implications of their being an endogamous population for so many centuries, and chose to use the word "propaganda" -- which was rather insulting to me, frankly -- what was I supposed to think? I'm not trying to paint you with any brush, and I'm happy to accept that your objection -- whatever it may be -- has nothing to do with Jews per se, but look at it from my point of view. Why did you have to use that word to dispute what I said? Speaking of not fair, and why one would do such a thing? Did it occur to you that I might be sensitive about having my -- once again, extremely uncontroversial -- statements about Ashkenazi Jews (based on 1,500 years of well-known European Jewish history) characterized as "propaganda"? Especially given that you declined to state what your objection was? I'm happy to drop the whole thing and accept your word that I jumped to the wrong conclusion, and I've deleted the portion of my post that you found objectionable. But let's not pretend that I'm a villain here.

 

This is starting to look a Lot like classic, clinical Freudian transference: 'I can poke at you until you poke back --and (Drum-roll, Please...) Now, You're Poking!' Your attempt at the rhetorical 'high ground' is That transparent. No one who's paying attention is fooled.

 

@Ryro - congratulations. For me, the coins are good deals.
I think I noticed the auction a few days ago but for the moment my budget is recovering from a chubby Christmas envelope with ancient coins