A STUNNER! Gordian III Dupondius

octavius · Dec 21, 2020

Rare AND beautiful.

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Marsyas Mike · Dec 22, 2020

curtislclay said: ↑

Known to me by 1972: 7 dupondii of this type, from one obv. and two rev. dies.

Doug's two specimens show that one obv. die and both of the reverses. Mike's is from the same obv. die, as he notes, and probably one of the same rev. dies, though I can't tell which one without having a plaster cast for close comparison of the details. The low number of specimens and dies known shows that this is not a common coin!

Number of dupondius and As obv. dies known to me by 1972 for Septimius between 193 and early 198:

IMP: 6 dup., 8 As
IMP II: no dup., 13 As
IMP III: 2 dup., no As
IMP IIII: 4 dup., 29 As
IMP V: 3 dup., no As
IMP VI: not certainly attested in any denomination
IMP VII: 1 dup., 21 As
IMP VIII: 2 dup., 5 As
IMP VIIII: no dup., no As
IMP X: no dup., 5 As.

Total: 18 dup. obv. dies, 71 As obv. dies. Note however that the total is 18 obv. dies in each denomination if we subtract the three New Year's issues of asses, which consumed 13 obv. dies in Dec.-Jan. 194, 29 in Dec.-Jan. 195, and 21 in Dec.-Jan. 196. The only As obv. dies that were apparently not produced for the three New Year's issues: IMP 8 dies, IMP VIII 5 dies, IMP X 5 dies.
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Wow! That is impressive research. Thank you for sharing this.

Blake Davis · Jan 6, 2021

curtislclay said: ↑

Known to me by 1972: 7 dupondii of this type, from one obv. and two rev. dies.

Doug's two specimens show that one obv. die and both of the reverses. Mike's is from the same obv. die, as he notes, and probably one of the same rev. dies, though I can't tell which one without having a plaster cast for close comparison of the details. The low number of specimens and dies known shows that this is not a common coin!

Number of dupondius and As obv. dies known to me by 1972 for Septimius between 193 and early 198:

IMP: 6 dup., 8 As
IMP II: no dup., 13 As
IMP III: 2 dup., no As
IMP IIII: 4 dup., 29 As
IMP V: 3 dup., no As
IMP VI: not certainly attested in any denomination
IMP VII: 1 dup., 21 As
IMP VIII: 2 dup., 5 As
IMP VIIII: no dup., no As
IMP X: no dup., 5 As.

Total: 18 dup. obv. dies, 71 As obv. dies. Note however that the total is 18 obv. dies in each denomination if we subtract the three New Year's issues of asses, which consumed 13 obv. dies in Dec.-Jan. 194, 29 in Dec.-Jan. 195, and 21 in Dec.-Jan. 196. The only As obv. dies that were apparently not produced for the three New Year's issues: IMP 8 dies, IMP VIII 5 dies, IMP X 5 dies.
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Impressive

Blake Davis · Jan 6, 2021

interesting that there are none dupondii for IMP X - could be a failure of any to survive, I prefer to think that the mint was focused on silver and gold and winding down doing bronzes at all. No facts to support this of course.

I just won an interesting Septimius Severus sestertius on German ebay - it is a reverse match to the tooled Geta I posted a short time ago. The reverse is not in great shape - I may send it to someone to be conserved but I’ll post it first. I could not find it in RIC

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