1836 over 1336 Capped Bust Half Dollar

Here is a real VF-25/30 example of an 1836 over 1336. If your contemplating purchasing one the main diagnostics are (obv) the faint (red circle) outline of the (3's Knob) in the lower loop of the first 8 and the (rev) shaft of the lower arrow being broken in the claw which is easy to see in the picture. The attribution is O-108 and it's listed as a pretty common R1 rarity rating. Still a neat variety for those thinking about collecting the series

Thanks for Looking
Ben

 

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Pretty cool!

I got to looking at this closely and when you say it is a 1836 over 1336 does that mean it was an actual die engraving error or just a die error that gives this appearance.

Would you explain this "rarity" factor, R1? I don't know enough about it to really understand it.

Thanks for sharing the Bust! Nice piece of history...in the hand.

 

Well Sir, the way I understand it was an actual (error) 3 which was carved into the die, then when they got it straightened out they just filled in the loops of the 3 and made an 8.

Rarity Ratings used for these halves is somewhat compared to this.

R-1 (Common) = 1,000+ known
R-2 (Slightly Uncommon) = 500-1,000 known
R-3 (Scarce) = 201-500 known
R-4 (Very Scarce) = 81-200 known
R-5 (Rare) = 31-80 known
R-6 (Very Rare) = 13-30 known
R-7 (Extremely Rare) = 4-12 known
R-8 (Unique or nearly so) = 1-3 known

Thanks for looking
Ben

 

That's very interesting. Its cool that you have one. 1000+ seems quite rare. Someone apparently took a big nap when engraving that die. Imperfection seems to be a talent for the human species at times.

Thanks again.

 

That is a really interesting piece. Another nice one for the collection Ben!

 

Wow! Now I'm debating do I like this one better or the last one. Very nice! Busts are very pretty coins.

Phoenix

 

Thank you all very much. I almost feel flattered, LOL... The series IMHO is one of the under-collected types available to collectors today. I mean, you can get a very nice coin which is 200 yrs or more old, and from the inception period of the country for very reasonable prices. These coins just drip history and character. They are the original lettered edge coinage of the United States of America.

Thanks for Looking
Ben

 

The more I look at Bens Capped Bust Halves the more I want to buy some. Thats a very nice example of that variety.

 

Walter:
Yes, 1,000 seems pretty rare, but it is a relative rarity.
Also, these are only reasonably priced because they have not gone crazy with new collectors.
Bust half dollars are great, and if a thousand or so new collectors arrive and decide to collect them by Overton variety they will explode in price (and value).
Remember that rarity is relative to the number of people who want something.
Go Busties!
Keep going Ben, and good luck with the Bust Half Nut Club.

 

Its funny you mention this because the more I watch the market and the introduction of new mint products, I feel the new collectors "WILL" eventually discover this end of collecting a do just what you are saying.

I'm not rich enough to buy it all at one time. I'd loved to have "it" all but I can't afford to. I have a few proof sets I need to acquire. 10 grand may not cover it. I do like the Bust half's. The more I learn the more I like them.

Its great that Ben shares with us here. I for one would not get the opportunity to view them, as well as learn about their attributions as effectively.

 

I have an 1836 50 over 00 half dollar that also seems to be 1836 over 1336 is this rare?

 

Post some pictures of the whole coin and a close-up up the date and the 50 over 00. As far as I know there is not a die marriage to match what you describe.