1928-S large and small "S"'s

Jack, did you have a chance to take some pics?

 

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This is true of any 28-S coin, they all have large and small mintmarks. The Standing Liberty Quarter (I hoard and study 28-S SLQs) is a great example, ditto Mercs and Walkers. Not sure about Buffalo Nickels and Peace Dollars but I would imagine the same.

 

OK, here's some pics of the "larger" S coin. Yea, it's the small S style, but it's definately larger than my other high grade small S. I'd like to see a close up taken from an MS large S coin. Every single picture I've seen and every large S example I personally have are EF and lower.

I'm wore out for now, but I took a slew of pictures of my 28-S's. Here's the first round.

 

Here's a couple large S types, it's easy to see the middle of the S is much fatter.

 

My problem is that I have more ambition than I have time. More goals than my hours allow.

Too many irons in the fire at all times makes me a scatterbrain.

I do get to stuff, just usually on Jack time zone.

 

There's one large S die on the SLQs where the Large S looks like the smaller S. Generally the Large S is more rectangular than the small S and the small S has more pronounced Serifs.

 

Bottom pic shows a classic Large S.

 

Like the first pic!!!!!! Sweet.

 

Thanks guys for bailing me out on this one, I thought it would be easy. I owe you all a big one.

 

Here's the small S I've been comparing the first one to. I'm going to be analyzing the pictures along with you guys, first time I've compared these like this.

 

Here's a side by side of the two higher grade small dates.

 

Nice. I didn't realize that they used those same punches on the Cent dies as well.

There's 3 different Small Ss that I have seen on SLQs, so I would imagine that these would also apply to Lincolns. As there were about 7 Cents minted in San Francisco for every Quarter in 1928, I'd assume that there's far more Cent Dies that were prepared.

I'd have to start digging through my Small S 28-S boxes, but the 3 distinct Small Ss were the two that you mentioned, and there's a third that I have seen, it's got the top of the top loop curved downward, but it isn't the one that you pictured with the triangle leading back from the Serif (Which I have seen on SLQs).

Curious how common it is on the Lincolns, but the squarer Large S (The one that looks like a small S) is something I only have one or two examples of.

 

I have to wonder--did you not read what I posted?....
It really doesn't matter the "size", but the style. Remember, they put the mintmarks on by hand back in 1928, and if the punch broke, or wore out, they would get a new one and keep right on going. Sometimes that meant a new style, and sometimes just alittle differeance in size,
Also take into account the wear on the die and its detail. You said that the one has a fatter middle--that could be a newer die, (or older) and as time went on and the die used more and more, the mintmark wore down to what looks to be a smaller MM.

So far it looks like all of the photos you have posted have been of one type -

Speedy

 

Now, that's some interesting info! I'd like to see some picutres of your mint coins/MM's. Based on my analysis, I don't think it's right to call my MS coin a "large" S, since the style is in that of the small S....even though it is larger than the typical small S.

I'd like see more people post pictures (with MM close-ups) of their 1928S's (large and small), especially if they are MS.

 

Agreed, yes, I've read your posts. Since the font style differences are pretty absolute, I agree.

Did you look at all the pics I posted? There's definately a large S in there.

 

It may be the angle of the picture but it looks like top loop of the 8 is larger on the small s picture and the loop seems smaller on the large s picture taken by BadThad

 

Here are some images from a book: "Looking Through Lincoln Cents." by Charles Daughtrey. There is an image I'm including and some of his thoughts on this year's mint marks.
edited - sorry, but posting images taken from books is not permitted as it is a copyright violation

 

Thanks coop..BTW...I do have Chuck's book.

 

I'll have to check--since I'm on dial-up sometimes all of the photos don't load...I will check again first thing in the morning.

Speedy

 

Thad, you've got me digging through my piles of 28-S Small S SLQs as I type this! Ask Ruben how I like 28-S SLQs, When he went to the Parsippany show with me I must have bought 10 or 20 of em, last I checked I had more than 10 rolls of them. I only have a couple MS Small Ss because, well, if I had bought 500 even MS60/61 28-Ss It would have cost as much as a nice used Bentley!

ANyhow.. on the small S, there's some varieties.

I have the one with the triangular upper Serif, that seems to be the most common on the SLQs, I also have an example of it where the upper loop of the S is almost filled in, that's NOT the S/D variety (Although this is the same punch used on that obverse die IIRC) but the other one that you'll see on the SLQs has a much skinnier top loop (There's no "triangular" serif) and this is the same one that comes in the "S over Large S" die variety which is MUCH scarcer than the "S/D" variety (Which is not rare).

I'll try and get some pics for you in the upcoming weeks, I am horrible at taking pics of coins. At the moment I'm working on an article on the 28-S, I need to get a few better examples of some of the RPMs and whatnot to really lock down the varieties of this date (And I have found one that I think is unique... reverse cud that's not listed in Knauss, but I digress..)

But like I said, all 1928 San Francisco coins, to my knowledge, exist with the large and small S.

I'll get some pics online and help clear this up, give me a few days... work is a killer!