Cameo Franklins

I saw a few of these on eBay, and I was wondering what is a good price to pay for a 1961 or a 1962? Thanks.

 

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Does PCGS list them?
And what are they selling for on eBay? (Don't get this mixed up with what the asking price is. If they didn't sell, then you know they weren't worth that much.)

 

Let's say it's a 66 cam but not D-cam. raw

 

Here is the coin from the auction. The price is $10.00. Seems good enough to me, but is it a cameo??

 

$10 seems to be a great price.

 

I would say its a cameo

 

I would buy that for $10. :thumb: However, is there a return policy?

Phoenix

 

Money back guaruntee.

 

Seems like a good deal to me too.

 

$10 is good if it is a full cam and does not have a bunch of hair lines in the fields.

 

That's what I was thinking. Here's another one I was looking at. Seller said the coin is "frosty" but he wouldn't call it a cameo. Sure looks like one to me.
http://i18.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/dd/7f/c69f_1.JPG
http://i9.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/dd/7f/c858_1.JPG

 

I suspect you are right. Furthermore, I suspect the coin in-hand will have slight cameo contrast, but not significant enough to warrant a CAM or DCAM label by either TPG. Without seeing the coin in-hand (or having it photographed under a less-diffused light) it is difficult to tell for sure, but my suspicion is rather strong FWIW....Mike

 

Again, I suspect the photo/lighting is fooling you -- either that or you're not familiar with how the TPGs classify these coins....

Might I suggest spending some time looking at Heritage and Teletrade pictures of non-CAM, CAM, and DCAM coins and you should be able to start to see where the cutoff is for CAM and DCAM coins.

Next, you have to be familiar with the different photography techniques used by sellers that make the photos appear like the coin is more cameoed than it really is -- unforunately there's no good site I've seen that describes it, but in this thread you have two good data points to start. You have to be careful of e-bay photographs that exhibit either (a) diffused light [like the first coin], or (b) overexposure [like the second coin] -- as they both will cause the average collector to overestimate the level of cameo.

Respectfully submitted, hoping to help...Mike

 

I'd have to agree with the "picture magic" description, the seller is very good with lighting the coin from multiple angles, creating the cameo effect. Sometimes ten minutes on the pic edit can make him $10-$15, I'm sure.
On the other hand if he is advertising any association with ANA the seller may well be on the level, considering the moneyback guarantee.

Good call Leadfoot....

 

I do know about diffused lighting, and I mentioned it in my message to him. I was just wondering if it might be a cameo despite what he said. I might buy it anyways because I don't yet have a 1961 in my set.

 

If you Need a CAMEO Franklin it's best to just get one already certified

 

cameo franklins CAN get $pendy...
I would go with one already graded as cameo to be safe, and stick with the 60's franklins, going earlier can hurt your wallet.
Attached are pics of a set I am in the process of procuring. That franklin is making my eyes water