1972 1cent FS 104?

I mean, Sal wasn't wrong....OP's coin is NOT FS-101...
It is also NOT FS-104.

 

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Yep and it's not MD either, guessing is not an answer.

 

Why is this thread in the general discussion anyway? Should not be here, this is for everything NOT coin related.

 

The single picture i posted is from PCGS as an example for Sal. That photo is of a 004. I do have the gouges under the n, but can't get a photo of it due to the plastic mint package.

 

I still say the original coin is NOT FS-104

http://coppercoins.com/lincoln/diestate.php?date=1972&die_id=1972p1do004&die_state=eds

http://varietyvista.com/01b LC Doubled Dies Vol 2/1972PDDO004.htm

 

I guess I should submit it to PCGS. I was just wondering if it was a good candidate for a DDO submission or even a DDO. Thank You

 

Just based on the pictures you showed us, it is not 104.
But go ahead and send it in to PCGS or whoever. I'd be interested to hear what your results are..

 

I believe that these markers are a good start but, not all the examples of the 104 that i have seen graded have all these markers.

 

I agree. Markers aren't everything. BUT your coin also does not have the doubling that 004 does.

 

The doubled is not as prominent that is for sure but, I think it will be a higher grade something anyway. I will post my graded coin.

 

How about posting full pictures of the obverse and reverse?

 

If it's not the same doubling, It's not the same variety.
I'm pretty sure what you have is a case of master hub doubling.
I am 100% that it isn't 104.

 

There really isn't any reason to keep the coin in the original packaging unless you do not have a 2x2 flip for it. Full size photos are gonna be needed if you want further help in identifying which variety it is exactly. A few of these aren't gonna really be worth the grading fees.
Maybe you are planning on keeping it and then I would say just send it in to ANACS or ICG They are just as good with attributions and they will do it cheaper.

 

OK, I am not here to argue with all of you guys. I am just trying to get some help identifying the doubled that i am seeing.You have already stated that this example (photo). is not a 104 maybe a 107. this example doesn't have all the wexlers or vista variety markers and is a 104. My example has the die gouges on the reverse that run east to west and below the n in united. And the same gouge in his jacket. There is also doubling in the O D and WE. My scope cannot take a picture that will encompass my whole coin.

 

This coin and the ones in the original post are not the same.

 

I agree they are not the same. This one in #35 has the true doubling in "IN GOD" and the one originally shown at start has some MD in the same area. The difference is that the True Doubling adds to the 'thickness' on the lettering. Original amount + True extra additional amount is thicker than original. In Mechanical Doubling the original when struck the 2nd time slices off some or original which is now less thicker and the MD part is equal or less than the thickness slice ( or what ever word you like) and added together they are the same or less thickness than the original. Where as the second die strike of a true DD is moved to the side and the thickness is now actually increased over the original.
This is an easy one, but it does show what I mean. Look at the doubled 'L' in liberty. Notice how the stem of the bottom L when covering the stem of the top L is about 150% the Thickness where they do not cover. Same for the bottom of the T also.

Jim

 

But true doubled dies cease with the birth of the Single Squeeze crudlola ( IMO) Jim,

 

I would like to see full photos of Obv. and Rev. please. My initial opinion is DDD

 

My opinion is the strike is either the result of DDD or MD. The 004 has over-struck left shifted characters in "In God We Trust". Your coin has an over-strike on these words, but not shifted. I agree with @furryfrog02, ie.