My last thread got me thinking how many varieties will there be?

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  1. bhp3rd

    bhp3rd Die varieties, Gems

    My last thread got me thinking how many varieties will there be in 2009 for Lincoln cents????
    So we have 4-P 4-D copper plated cents that's eight.
    Also 4-P and 4-D original french bronze, that's eight more, total 16.
    then we will have 4-proof in french bronze that's a total of 20.
    I wonder if the mint forgot it is supposed to issue another 8 (4-P&D each) copper plated for mint sets and four proofs copper plated?? Maybe they will skip that little irregularity???
    So will there be 20 or 32??????????????
    Anybody know???????
     
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  3. davdo

    davdo Senior Member

    I just 'assumed' (I know, I know) that the proofs would be the copper coins and not the 'bronze'. Am I wrong???? I'm curious, too!!
     
  4. coinbuff

    coinbuff Senior Member

    The Mint announced the composition of the the 2009 mint set a little while back.
    8 cents copper alloy 4 P 4 D
    2 five cent P & D
    2 dimes P & D
    12 territory quarters 6 P & 6 D
    2 halves P & D
    2 native american dollars P & D
    8 President dollars P & D for each of the four Presidents

    Total 36 coins but only one composition for the cent - copper alloy.
     
  5. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Of course the year still has a long time to go. There is always the chance the mint could make up another "set" with satin finish or proof finish zinc cents.

    Davdo, when we say copper or bronze we are referring to the same thing. Bronze is the 95% copper 5% tin and zinc alloy. No Lincoln cent has ever been a pure copper composition and the 2009 "copper" version was mandated to be the same alloy as the 1909 cent which was bronze.
     
  6. davdo

    davdo Senior Member

    ^^^OK, I was using 'bronze' to describe the current metal composition of the Lincoln cent. I didn't mean to cause any confusion (I am the one confused, lol). Thanks for setting the record straight.
     
  7. ksproul

    ksproul Member

    So does anyone know if Dansco will make an updated page to cover all these varieties? My current 8100 album has 12 holes for the 2009 cents (P, D, and S proof for each of the four designs), but I assume we'd need 8 more holes to cover the P and D versions in both compositions (assuming the proof will only be available in copper). They included both compositions for 1982, so I'd think they should do the same for 2009.
     
  8. troublesbrewin

    troublesbrewin remember rotary phones?

    I beg to differ.....
    The proof set at the very least will be 95% copper.

    http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/lincolnRedesign/index.cfm?flash=yes

    The new one-cent reverse designs will be issued at approximately three-month intervals throughout 2009. The Secretary of the Treasury approved the designs for the coins after consultation with the Abraham Lincoln Bicentennial Commission and the Commission of Fine Arts, and after review by the Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee.
    Reverse inscriptions will continue to include "United States of America," "E Pluribus Unum" and "One Cent." And the four 2009 Abraham Lincoln one-cent coins will maintain the same metal content (2.5% copper, balance zinc) and other specifications as the current one-cent coin.
    These coins will be issued for circulation in quantities to meet the demands of commerce. In addition, the Secretary of the Treasury shall mint and issue numismatic one-cent coins in 2009 with the exact metallic content as contained in the 1909 one-cent coin (95% copper, 5% tin and zinc). These numismatic versions will be included in the United States Mint’s annual product offerings.
     
  9. coinbuff

    coinbuff Senior Member

    "I beg to differ.....
    The proof set at the very least will be 95% copper."

    Which is what I said, copper alloy.
    95% copper and 5% tin and zinc IS a copper alloy, no? :kewl:

    The circulation cents are not made from an alloy - they are copper plated zinc.
     
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