Star note question

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by davidh, Feb 28, 2009.

  1. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    If a Star note is damaged in printing is it replaced with a double star note?

    But seriously, do error star notes exist? I would think that star notes are examined individually and the chances of an error getting out are practically nil.
     
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  3. schatzy

    schatzy ~Roosie Fanatic~

    There are error star notes.
    A star note doesn't get examined any more than a regular note.

    and for your first question......NO
     
  4. schatzy

    schatzy ~Roosie Fanatic~

  5. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

    Error star notes do exist and there are fewer because of lower printings.

    One I'd like to find is an upside down star. It has happened.
     
  6. LSM

    LSM Collector

    It happened with the 2003-A series one dollar star notes (inverted back).
    Approximate values. Fine 1500, EF 2500 and CU 4500.
    There's also a one dollar silver certificate star note series 1928-A.

    Lou
     
  7. schatzy

    schatzy ~Roosie Fanatic~


    Wouldn't the serial number have to be upside down also!!
     
  8. LSM

    LSM Collector

    There's a series 1928 100 dollar FRN note that has just the star upside down. That type of error is called a inverted block character error.

    Lou
     
  9. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    i just like star notes lol :D
     
  10. GrimReaper

    GrimReaper Senior Member

    Borrowed these just for educating you peeps !!

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    Right Star Invert

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    Left Star Invert

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    Both Stars Inverted!!

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  11. schatzy

    schatzy ~Roosie Fanatic~

    Sweet thanks for the pictures!!
     
  12. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper

    Lou...how are you?
    That is pretty cool information. Mind if I ask for a link to where you found this out? It would make for some interesting reading.

    Thanks for the informational post!!


    RickieB
     
  13. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper

    Thanks Reaper!!
    That is indeed cool!!

    RickieB
     
  14. LSM

    LSM Collector

    Hi RickieB,

    I'm glad to see you back. :) I picked up a new book called Paper Money Errors by DR Frederick J. Bart. There all types of errors to learn about and 550 (so the book says) photos to help identify the errors. The book has 285 pages and information as to how the errors occurred during the printing process.

    Lou
     
  15. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper

    Thanks Lou...
    I am onlyback for a short time...I have a huge month long Business trip coming up. The illness I had almost killed me..LOL it was bad to say the least!

    I have 5 weeks of domestic and International Travel commencing next week.

    See ya round Lou..


    RickieB
     
  16. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    Not knowing the answers, I am trying to become educated to these types of bills. I do understand that star notes are replacements for notes damaged during the regular printing process. What I don't quite have a handle on is how the replacement is made.

    How are damaged notes detected? Is it through a visual check by the press operator or a spot check by quality control? Or is it done automatically using high speed optical readers that check that the proper patterns are present on the all of the finished products.

    Is the detection done when the entire sheet is printed or after the notes have been cut to individual sizes, or at some intermediate point?

    Are the damaged notes pulled by hand or does the handling machinery do the work? Is the replacement star note inserted by hand or does the handling machinery do it?

    Are the star notes printed up before hand or just as needed? Are they printed in full sheets? if so, are the serial numbers sequential on each individual sheet?

    As far as the stars themselves, right side up vs upside down - I am supposing that the number portion of the serial number is done by a stepping counter that advances by one after each impression. Is the star like a piece of movable type that is set into the printer by hand? Is there any other explanation that would account for a star being inverted? Could it be done by design for some purpose?

    Are there any known instances of stars (or final letters) missing altogether from a serial number?

    In my younger days I used to amuse myself by using a vinyl eraser (non-abrasive) to erase parts of a note's design or serial number. I'm sure it was detectable under close scrutiny but I imagine it made for a few skipped heartbeats for anyone looking for errors.
     
  17. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper

  18. LSM

    LSM Collector

    David, there are instances where a prefix or suffix letter is missing. Also there notes that have mismatched serial numbers or mismatched prefix or suffix letters. There's also notes with a mismatched district letter to the district numbers.

    Lou
     
  19. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    Thanks for the response but the link only tells me what I said in the first paragraph of my question.

    Erasers - while sitting in school on warm spring days I had a lot of time on my hands.

    This is part of my question. I can see how numbers can become mismatched if the stepping mechanism skips a step, but are the letters (or stars) placed in the printer by hand or are they a fixed part of the printer. If stars can be inverted, how abut invered letters?

    The quest for knowledge continues...
     
  20. LSM

    LSM Collector

    Well I can answer part of your question. Yes, there are notes with inverted letters.

    Lou
     
  21. GrimReaper

    GrimReaper Senior Member

    http://www.uspapermoney.info/


    Because serial numbers are limited to eight numerals, a "star" note is substituted for the 100 millionth note. Star notes also replace notes damaged in the printing process. Made up with independent runs of serial numbers, star notes are exactly like the notes they replace except that a star is substituted for one of the serial letters.
     
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