This bust dollar while having bad photos is still easy to spot as a fake imo. First giveaway is that the headband distance compared to the stars, is way too close. And the big giveaway is that the edge should be a letter edge, but this one is reeded. Could I get some help and get this taken down? Also if anyone knows how to post pics, it would be helpful for future references. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1796-P-1796-Draped-Bust-Silver-Dollar/154247186240?hash=item23e9d94740:g:3ysAAOSwMFhf2gu-
It claims to be ICG certified EF40, but no sign of a slab. Seller does not accept returns and has only 97% positive feedback. You can right click, "save image as" to your folder. Crop and use the Upload a File button
Looks like ignorance more than fraud to me, judging from the seller's other auctions. No idea where they came up with ICG certification and grade, though.
It also helps if you have an option to "Return" the item to the seller, I just learned that little tidbit in the last couple of days from a fella, right here on CT. I would also add - for something expensive as that would be... it would take a tremendous amount of trust (i.e., feedback, established seller, etc...). IMHO. And for the record, I will never understand why sellers of items for thousands of dollars - not ship for free . But that's just me, I guess. (T'would make a better buyer/seller relationship to include the registered postage in the price, no?)
The seller's other stuff is all over the place on shipping, from "Pickup only" for big expensive industrial stuff, to mostly cheap stuff with mostly free shipping. Oddly-shaped items seem to have shipping broken out. I suspect this seller got this coin in trade or as part of a lot, thought they'd hit the jackpot, looked at insurance costs for shipping something of that price, and decided "expensive shipping, break it out". Maybe they're figuring they don't have to eat the shipping if it gets returned. I don't think that's true. In any event, the listing's gone now.
listing is gone now, but seller was only claiming it was ICG graded, without photos of coin in an ICG holder (according to a post above.) I don't see how you can make a statement like that.
I had to chew on it for a minute, too. I interpreted @Kentucky's comment to mean that the seller was saying "I Can't Grade". This seller has likely never heard of ICG, nor probably any of the other TPGs. And, as we've said, ICG never saw this slug -- the seller was probably mashing buttons at random in that part of the selling form.
If it is possible, folks who spot these fakes should post pictures. Once the item has been taken down, it’s impossible to learn something about why the item is bad.
I can't imagine that ICG would care to do anything once the auction was taken down. The item was not PICTURED in an ICG slab. I'm quite sure it never had one.