1882-O die clash, need help

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by kden, Dec 26, 2020.

  1. kden

    kden Active Member

    Is anyone familiar with how to look up specific die varieties? I've seen something similar on the vams 1882-O but nothing exactly like this.
     

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  3. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    1882 o vam 1A
     
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  4. kden

    kden Active Member

    Thank you tho must be been one of those hiding in plain sight kind of situations
     
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  5. kden

    kden Active Member

    I see the resemblance for sure but I haven't noticed the other details. Should I look for them? Or do these things only occur on some coins? I'm not familiar with the vam system and I would love to learn.
     
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  6. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    :). You and me both. I have only a couple Morgans also but their not attributed as a far as VAMs . Does this make one more than another ?
     
  7. kden

    kden Active Member

    If you're asking what I think, id say it makes it more valuable in a way but probably not much.
     
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  8. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    I guess the research continues . Mine has a zillion VAMS . Almost more than a State Copper . Ugh !
     
  9. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    First, read the attribution for beginners guide
    http://vamworld.com/wiki/Attribution_101
    A lot of die clashes are not considered important but the die markers are when attributing your coins.
    Sal, your coin will have A VAM, singular. Basically, among other things, A VAM is used to identify a die marriage, the stage in the life of the die(s) etc
     
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  10. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Unbelievable!
     
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  12. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    No Thanks , No more marrying , :jawdrop:
     
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  13. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Vam this, vam that, vam it... Happy New Year
     
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  14. Bob Evancho

    Bob Evancho Well-Known Member

    Interesting coin. I was checking on VAMWorld.com for clashed 1882-O with letter transfer. On your coin I was unable to see the obverse clash ( could you give the location or a picture showing where the obverse clash is and circled by you, thanks) so I checked the reverse clash of your coin. I looked to see what VAM had a matching reverse clash exactly as your coin. The clash going from the Eagles wing to the N of IN is in a certain position (left leg of N). 1A didn't match. Study your coin and 1B. 17-A didn't match. Continue trying to match diagnostics of your coin with the information from VAMWorld.com and let us know here what you have found. It is difficult to VAM a coin by pictures which may not show diagnostics Vammers look for. Enjoy coin collecting and become a happy Vammer.
     
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  15. kden

    kden Active Member

    I studied my coin according to 1882-O 1b and I definitely think there's something going on with the green arrow. Hard for me to tell with the red one. And honestly I'm not sure what's going on in the 1bs first photo
     

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  16. kden

    kden Active Member

    Looks like vam 2! But how do you choose your vam when it has multiple vam qualities? After reading more vams would this be an open and closed 2?
     

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  17. kden

    kden Active Member

    I'm assuming this is either dirt or toning material buildup or strike doubling anyone got the answer?
     

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  18. kden

    kden Active Member

    Just in case anyone finds it helpful here is positioning of the mint mark
     

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  19. kden

    kden Active Member

    I feel like I might just be getting too observant now. I'm sure this is just strike doubling as well.
     

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  20. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    The first image from VamWorld shows a clash of the designers initial M (obverse) on the reverse above the D of God
     
  21. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    The mintmark is tilted slightly left. You can choose the Reverse design link and look at the MM pages. From your photos it looks like there might be a die gouge at the bottom of the inside opening of the O but your image is just not clear enough.
    In a lot of cases the Date and MM positioning will narrow your search considerably
     
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