OK, last grade opinion post for a few days :)

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by hinnelton, Feb 23, 2009.

  1. hinnelton

    hinnelton New Member

    I have really enjoyed the opinions so far. Thanks all. I have so many raw Morgans and Peace dollars - some super shiny, many with various types of toning - and I am trying to get a handle on whether I have a good idea of how they might grade if I slabbed them.

    Here's an 1878-s

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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I'm really curious about your coins, it seems that every one has this pale organge color. Is that really how the coins look in hand or is it just your pictures doing that ?

    I would suggest that you take a few pics using a white background. Then if the background is the correct color in the pic you know that you getting the right color. If it isn't, you aren't.
     
  4. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    and from the pics the way they are... there is really no way to tell if there is any luster at all... just details alone...
     
  5. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    the color is likely Flourecent lights. I have this problem all the time with Silver.

    Anyway MS-64+

    Ruben
     
  6. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Sure looks like a white balance problem to me....

    That said, like others, the photos don't portray the luster well enough to feel confident in any grade assessment.

    Those disclaimers aside, the coin appears to me to be a 64 or 65. The cheek looks clean enough for the 65 grade, but I'm a bit concerned with high-point wear / bag friction -- and the luster is going to also tell a very important story when it comes time to grade the coin.

    Hope this helps...Mike
     
  7. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    im gonna say that that lighting is hiding a lot of light abrasions... look in the hair for example... looks like lots of little contacts... ill say a 63 at best
     
  8. the_man12

    the_man12 Amateur Photographer

  9. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

  10. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    If there was a little wear on the coin to make it AU, would you even be able to see it with that lighting?
     
  11. hinnelton

    hinnelton New Member

    Better photos, I think

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  12. the_man12

    the_man12 Amateur Photographer

    Yes those are better, but I am sticking with my grade of 63.
     
  13. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Nice coin I'll say MS-63 sounds right . Does the coin in hand have that orange color , or is it the lighting ?
    rzage
     
  14. hinnelton

    hinnelton New Member

    It is a bit toned

    (in response to rzage @ 9:12)
     
  15. raider34

    raider34 Active Member

    What's going on with the LLAR in Dollars looks like doubling, but it could just be from the toning. There's like 100 different VAMs for the 1878 S. Could you maybe get some close ups of it?
     
  16. hinnelton

    hinnelton New Member

    Can you tell a newbie what LLAR is?

    And I probably have 25 1878-S dollars, by the way.
     
  17. raider34

    raider34 Active Member

    The LLAR is just the actual letters in DOLLAR on the reverse as in ONE DOLLAR. It could also just be from toning, I'm not sure, closer pics would help. VAMworld » Morgan VAMs By Date Here's a great site if you ever wan't to check any of your Morgans.

    -Mike
     
  18. hinnelton

    hinnelton New Member

    VAM World is really cool. The variety of them all is astonishing. Seems like you would need some good magnfication to find these things on a coin without going blind...
     
  19. raider34

    raider34 Active Member

    Yeah you would probably need a magnifier, or some decent macro pics. I usually just use macro pics and blow them up on the computer.
     
  20. hinnelton

    hinnelton New Member

    Some have the patience for such things. I do not! I discovered this today : )

    I also cannot put a model together, finish a crossword puzzle, jigsaw puzzle, etc

    We do what we're good at, right? Oh well.
     
  21. raider34

    raider34 Active Member

    LOL yes it can be a very tedious task.
     
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