Attractive tone on Proof 1938 Lincoln ?

So what do you guys & gals think ? Is this attractive toning or do the couple of carbon spots take away from it too much ? The reverse is not scratched but the tone has been disrupted by the holder the coins were in.

It is being sent for grading today so I will have a TPG grade for everyone in about 3 weeks.

If you want ,throw out a guess to what you think it will grade too.

 

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Are those scratches on the reverse?

 

No it is only the tone that has bee disrupted. No scratches but obviously a hint of wear there from the friction caused by the holder it was stored in.

 

Very nice 1938 proof!!

 

Sorry...I'm not diggin' it. Hazy toning on a proof is one thing, but the carbon spots kill it for me.

 

I don't think the spots are the killers, but the scratches on Abe are. I would guess PR-64 RB, but would guess that the TPG would bag it for questionable color. I am not saying I agree, but from what I have seen lately, that is what I think will happen.

 

Here is a bigger pic of the area your questioning. I have seen many toned coins that have been touched by a finger or something similar that would give this effect .
If not made from being in the holder than it would be from friction from sliding around on something . I just dont see any other marks on the coin that say "cleaned" to me.

If it gets a body bag or genuine grade I dont believe it will be for this reason ,but for the carbon spots.

But then again I have been know to be wrong more that you.

 

If you two think that was scratched, just what is so flexible as to get up tight to the lettering ON BOTH SIDES, but stiff enough to scratch the toning? I guarantee that it is not a holder or album. There is no way they could get into the nooks and grannies. If that is a finger print, that is the funkiest finger print I have ever seen. I agree that it looks like it was scratched, but by what and how? To me this is one of those post turtles. (you know when you see a turtle on top of a post, it did not get there by itself, but you have no clue how it did get there.)

 

IMO it will probably get bodybagged. I Think maybe it was scratched up and someone try to tone it to cover up the scratches.

 

I think it will slab in a 62 or 63 holder.

 

it almost looks like someone torch toned it...

 

Redundant post by me.

 

I think it would be bodybagged. Just too many scratches in the reverse.

 

i like the toning, and i dont like many. But the carbon spots are not enough to killthe coin for me. If i liked the toning, i would get it regardless of the sots. The scratches kill the coin for me alot more then the spots do.

I also agree with the others ... it looks like a brillo pad hit the coin.

 

Agreed, the carbon spots will never stop a coin from grading...if it did a helluv a lot of Lincolns wouldn't be graded. LOL I think you'll get the classic "questionable or artificial color" BB.....errrgggg...genuine slab.

 

When magnified, the "scratches" look more like strings of tiny circular spots, as if a cloth with some kind of chemical or toner was swiped across, with micro droplets later spreading and changing the surface. Probably they didn't appear for years after, maybe when the "carbon spots" appeared ( environmental).

Jim

 

I personally think it will be body bagged, as some of the scratches seem to be etched in the coin itself, rather than just etched in the toning. I do however think that the toning is beautiful. :thumb:

Phoenix