Ancient owls

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Muhammad Niazi, Dec 24, 2020.

  1. Muhammad Niazi

    Muhammad Niazi Well-Known Member

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    Heres a new indogreek king for my collection. Archebios was the last indogrek king in taxilla before Maus and the indo scythians showed up.

    Archebios 90-80BC
    Indo greek bronze quadruple
    Elephant walking right, Greek legend around:
    BAΣIΛEΩΣ ΔIKAIOY NIKHΦOPOY / APXEBIOY
    (Basileos Dikaiou Nikephorou Archebiou ... of King Archebios, the just, the victorious)
    Owl standing facing, three-quarters right,
    Kharoshthi legend around: maharajasa dhra / mikasa jayadhara / sa arkhebiyasa
    Reference: MIG 368b, Bop 12A


    I havent seen many owls on ancient coins other than the rather numerous athenian owl silvers.

    I am wondering what the symbolism of having an owl on the coin would represent. Maybe linking back to pure greek heritage?

    Share your owl coins and your thoughts.

    P.s the coins rather botched patina is kind of shiny. It might be artificial.
     
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  3. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Neat! Without knowing anything about anything, I would suspect the Athenian style owl is, like you said, a call back to the glory days.
     
  4. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    That little square Indo-Greek is neat.

    I love owls, and have, since I was a little kid.

    As to owls on ancient coins, I have owned two.

    The first one (more of a "winged bullfrog", perhaps) is one I sold, and later regretted:

    Greece (Pontos, Amisos): silver drachm or siglos featuring Hera and owl, ca. late 400s-300s BC
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    The second is in my present collection and is one of my favorite coins:

    Greece (Spartans in Taras, Calabria, Italy): silver drachm; Athena and owl, ca. 302-281 BC
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  5. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    ...Except, @hotwheelsearl, knowing exactly as much as you do, wouldn't it be great if both motifs, as late as this (right, relative to Athens, as @Muhammad Niazi noted), originated independently, nearer the chronological and geographic source of the issue?
    Just riffing (i.e., speculating), in a pointedly recreational capacity.
     
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  6. Muhammad Niazi

    Muhammad Niazi Well-Known Member

    At first glance it reminded me of the basilisks from Darksouls.

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    Very pretty coins. We have athenian owl imitations sometimes showing up in the local market here. I guess originating from bactria / Afghanistan.
     
  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Where are you, out of curiosity?
     
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  8. Muhammad Niazi

    Muhammad Niazi Well-Known Member

    Pakistan
     
  9. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Cool. I like the international involvement on these forums.
     
  10. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    I've got nothing ancient (yet, but @lordmarcovan is having an influence on me), so I will post what I have for your enjoyment. A few modern tribute pieces from various artistic die sinkers.

    I love participating on the dark side when possible.

    Z



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    Landis Studios - 2018 Owl-Minerva - obverse.JPG

    2018 Clark Gruber Liberty-Owl Fractional Silver - obverse.JPG

    2018 Clark Gruber Liberty-Owl Fractional Silver - reverse.JPG

    2018 Year Of The Dog - Lunar Calender - obverse1.JPG

    2018 Year Of The Dog - Lunar Calender - reverse.JPG

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  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    That owl is a square type I had not seen. Thanks for sharing it.
     
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  12. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    I have never seen that type before! VERY cool!

    Here's my favorite owl. It's tiny.

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  13. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Very cool square owl, @Muhammad Niazi !

    I wish I had one like yours, it breaks the mold.

    MY NON-ATHENS OWLS...

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    Teate Apulia 225-220 BCE AE Quincunx 12.5g 26.5mm Athena R Corinthn helmet - TIATI owl K 5 pellets - BMC HN Italy 702a SNG Cop 689 var RARE


    My MUTANT OWL
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    Athens 340-317 BCE BC AE 12 Athena attic helmet R- Double bodied Owl with head facing E olive sprigs kalathos RARE BMC 224


    Spartan Colony - Little known fact: Athena was a patron Goddess of Sparta
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    Calabria Tarentum AR Drachm 18mm 3.1g 3rd C BCE Athena Corinthian Scylla OWL olive TAP ZOP HN Italy 975 Vlasto 1052
     
  14. medoraman

    medoraman Well-Known Member

    Central Asia seemed to have an affinity for Athenian types. They were the first Greek locally produced types, imitations of ancient Athens. I find the OPs coin cool in that it marries a Greek symbol, (owl), with the Central/Southern Asian one, (elephant). I am not sure if I own that type in my Indo-Greek bronze box.
     
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  15. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Fun coin and thread idea:woot:
    A couple of mine are hiding;
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  16. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Oh yeah, @Ryro made me remember about these Bad Boy Owls slaughtering Lizards (sorry @Johndakerftw ):

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    Sicily Kamarina AE 15mm 3.4g 420-405 BCE Athena Owl Lizard 3 dots Sear Gk 1063


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    SICILY Kamarina Æ Onkia 13mm 1.5g 420-405 BC-OLDEST Gorgon tongue - KAMA owl r lizard in claw pellet in ex SNG Münch 411
     
  17. Johndakerftw

    Johndakerftw Mr. Rogers is My Hero

    Poor baby lizards. :(

    I have an owl that I’ll post when I get on my laptop. It likes lizards. Lol

    Erin
     
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  18. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Artist & Historian Supporter

  19. Johndakerftw

    Johndakerftw Mr. Rogers is My Hero

    Here's my little bronze owl. A gift from our good friend Brian Bucklan.

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    Erin
     

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