World silver crown-size type coin collectors?

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  1. Chris B

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    Me too. It is a common type but this one is better struck than most.
     
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  3. PaulTudor

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    It's the type of wildman that i'm hoping to buy and keep ! I'm sure you'll love the Kremnitz piece, plus it's an early date , not very common, most of the type available beign post 1650'.I have two(1639 & 1648) and wouldn't say no to a third one! Do you have any Olmutz piece? If not i suggest getting a 1705 one, you won't regret it!
     
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  4. Chris B

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    Not a Thaler but I do have this later piece.

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  5. longshot

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  6. talerman

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    Germany FURSTENBERG-STUEHLINGEN Joseph Wenzel Mining Taler 1767
    The reverse has a view of the St. Wenceslas of Wolfach mine

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  7. PaulTudor

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    Innocent XII piastra , 1699, port of Anzio, an unexpected deal of which i am very happy! Hope i can add a 1672 piece with the port of the Civitavecchia.


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  8. talerman

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    Very nice condition !
     
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  9. Gallienus

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    Now that is a beautiful scene. One day I'll try to get some more talers but I imagine this one is quite expensive?
     
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  10. PaulTudor

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    It's an appealing piece in any grade and the well preserved ones are not often seen!For my budget it was an expensive coin, but considering its condition, i think it was a good deal. I paid 320 euros and a goldgulden (David von Burgund)that was a previous ebay purchase of 195£.
     
  11. Gallienus

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    Wow that is really a good deal. I dimly recall paying nearly $ 1,200 for a common circulated Venetian ducatoon issued around the 1790's. That piece was undateld but I wanted one with the Lion of St. Mark's after visiting Venice.

    The pieces with the harbor views were always out of my price range and I'm one that occasionally bids on Polish talers in nice grades: including once the 1533.
     
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  12. talerman

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    To show how smart you are, I paid double for mine in less good grade
     
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  14. Gallienus

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    And a taler for today's times...

    1528 Bohemian Plague (Pest) Taler

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    Erzgebirge. "Pest" Taler 1528, Joachimsthal mint, engraved by Ulrich (Utz) Gebhart. A showtaler, quite similar to pest medals carried to ward off the plague. The theme features supplicants making appeals for mercy and health, both to Christ on the cross as well as the Brazen Serpent mentioned in the Gospel of John. Notably, several of the supplicants on the side with the Brazen Serpent have not survived. The Joachimsthal valley in the Erzgebirge (Ore Mountains) was a primary source of German and Austrian silver in the Early-Modern period and is located on the modern-day German/Czech border.

    -- writeup by Goldberg's for a virtually identical Pest Taler sold around 2018, but that one a double taler, high grade, undated and big $. I thought of buying it but stopped after a couple of K.

    Thus carrying this, one not need fear any plague. Purchased from Karl Stephens, ca. 2004, somewhere around $450.
     
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  15. PaulTudor

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    I think it's the advantage of the Ebay, if you're there on a daily basis, you will have some good deals once in a while. I had some serious negotiations for this one , trying to get it for around 450 euros, but even what i paid for it is ok.
     
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  16. Gallienus

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    Startling new information on the above plague taler. The snake shown is Nehushtan (Hebrew) the derogatory name given to the bronze or brass serpent on a pole first described in the Book of Numbers.

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    The Bronze Serpent on a Pole,
    Michaelangelo, 1508, Sistene Chapel

    Thus Michaelangelo's imagery, made just 20 years before, was the basis for this coin design. Now I have a contemporary reproduction of part of the Sistene Chapel.

    -- a correction, the double taler of this design was auctioned by Heritage not Goldberg's. It's a shame I didn't get the double taler but C'est la vie.
     
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  17. talerman

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    France Principality of DOMBES Gaston d'Orleans Ecu 1652

    Gaston d'Orleans, third son of King Henri IV, married Marie de Bourbon-Montpensier, Princesse de Dombes, in 1626. Marie died 10 months later at the age of 2 after giving birth to their daughter Anne-Marie-Louise. Gaston became regent and usufructuary until his daughter was declared a major in 1650, She continued to strike the coinage in his name until 1654. Gaston died in 1660.
    The coin is an imitation of an ecu of King Louis XIII. It bears the unusual title of VS. P_ DOMBARVM (usufructuary of principality of Dombes).

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  18. talerman

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    Italy GUASTALLA Ferrante II Gonzaga Tallero 1620

    An unusual feature on this coin is the die number - a small 1 - at the neck on the obv. and at the beginning of the legend on the rev. Varieties are known with die numbers from 1 to 6.

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  19. PaulTudor

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    1621 Nagybania( Baia Mare) NB, Transylvania taler, Gabriel Bethlen, Dav. 4711, KM 135. Won it last night for 1400$ at the NY Sale and i'm surprised that no one bidded higher to be honest. The coin is indeed slightly tooled /engraved on the bust , but is almost impossible to find, at least from my research. I only managed to find a similiar piece sold in 2008 for 7647$ by Rauch, but that is a different variety( 3 leaves/petals above head, instead of 5) ,the one also displayed in the Krause catalogue and i've researched more than 250 past sales of the date, most being the 1621 KB Kremnitz type, which is probably the most common transylvanian taler of the 17th century.

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  20. talerman

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    Germany Bishopric of BRESLAU Franz Ludwig von Pfalz-Neuburg Reichstaler 1694

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  21. ColonialCoinsUK

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    I found this really interesting as I am a collector of die numbers on British Victorian sixpences which was 1864 to 1879 and there are ~600! (they are also on other denominations for this period).

    Has anyone got all six and what were the reasons for the die numbers?
     
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