1943 Steel DOUBLE DIE OBVERSE

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  1. stella

    stella The Myth

    PCGS does not give a price for this coin, and it is also it isnt liste in any book. Does anyone know about this KING of double dies.

    -Stella
     
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  3. stella

    stella The Myth

    ALSO, do you know of any more CENT DDO's other than these?


    Lincoln DDO
    -----------------
    1909 VDB DDO
    1917 DDO
    1936 DDO (RARE)
    1941 DDO
    1943 DDO
    1955 DDO
    1958 DDO (RARE)
    1960-D DDO
    1969-s DDO (RARE)
    1970-S LD DDO
    1971 DDO
    1972 DDO
    1983 DDO
    1984 DDO
    1995 DDO
     
  4. grizz

    grizz numismatist

    1943..................................

    ......hello stella and welcome to the boards! i am curious, where have you heard of the doubled die 43 steelie? i haven't heard of this.

    steve
     
  5. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Welcome!

    Check out this web site it has all you need to know about Wheat & LMC cents
    www.coppercoins.com
     
  6. tdec1000

    tdec1000 Coin Rich, Money Poor :D

    The 1943 steel cent ddo is NOT the king of doubled dies. FYI that is reserved for the 1955/1972/1983 DDR or the 1969 S DDO.
     
  7. stella

    stella The Myth

    Your acctually correct i would have said the 69-s, or a 58 DDO would be king, BUT PCGS has only confermed and graded 2 YES ONLY TWO. Now if there is only two, wouldnt this qualify as a king.
     
  8. blu62vette

    blu62vette Member

    It all depends on if you think by "king" you mean rarity or how dramatic of doubling.
     
  9. stella

    stella The Myth

    also very true....
     
  10. stella

    stella The Myth

    But the 1943 is the only STEEL DDO, and there are only two graded by pcgs.... I GOT ONE, let me know if you guys want a picture uploaded. Only twgo have been raded like i said, and one is MS64 the other MS65.... Plus Its not listed in any book....

    hold up ill take a picture of it...
     
  11. FreakyGarrettC

    FreakyGarrettC Wise young snail

  12. stella

    stella The Myth

    FINEST KNOWN!!!, ONLY TWO GRADED

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  13. stella

    stella The Myth

    The first 9 is doubled.... i just got a 72 also, hold up....
     
  14. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    It is listed in the Cherrypicker's Guide as showing a mushy doubling in the date and LIBERTY and with a historical value of $50 in MS-65. There is also a similar 1943-S.

    Pesonally, I don't see how doubling only of the date and another element qualifies as a DDO, which implies that the entire obverse (O) has is doubled (D) on the die (D).

    Where does the information come from that only two of these exist? Cherrypicker's says it has always been very popular with Lincoln specialists, implying that there are at least several more.
     
  15. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It's not that only 2 exist - it's that only two have been slabbed and graded.
     
  17. borgovan

    borgovan Supporter**

    This coin is listed in Cherrypicker's as having a rarity of URS-7. The prices listed are:

    XF-$95, AU-$150, MS-63 - $250.

    Doesn't seem like an ultra-rarity to me.
     
  18. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    You're right - I stand corrected.

    My 5th edition Cherrypicker's shows

    VF-$5, EF-$10, AU-$20, MS60-$25, MS63-$35, MS65-$50
     
  19. borgovan

    borgovan Supporter**

    Okay. That makes more sense -- mine's 4th edition.

    They must have found a lot more of them. I'm betting it's not listed as a URS-7 anymore either.
     
  20. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    Actually it still is URS-7, so there must be no more than 64 of them reported.
     
  21. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    As already noted go to www.coppercoins.com There you would find almost some type of Double Die for every year of that coin. Double Dies are sort of common but only the ones that make it into the Red Book or similar popular books makes the grade as expensive or valuable.
    All coins prices are basically dependant on who wants them, how many want them and those are based on how many have even heard about them. This is probably why the 1955 Double Die is so expensive. It is probably the most talked about, written about, discussed Double Die therefore demanding the highest amount of money.
    Note in the famous Red Book so few Double Dies are mentioned for the Lincoln Cents. On the Coppercoins web site there is considerable mentioning of RPM's. Note the Red Book doesn't mention them. In the Red Book on pages 401 to 404, 2009 edition, there is no mention of RPM's. Naturally this holds down their value. Then note how they not only show values of the 55 but have a little notation about just that coin. So now everyone wants one.
    If the Red Book mentions the 1943 Double Die it too will then become famous and worth much, much more.
     
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