New Flying Eagle Cent Piece by Daniel Carr!

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by fretboard, Dec 18, 2020.

  1. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    It’s insanely easy not to click on something you don’t like instead of feeling the need to repeat yourself for the 1000th time

    we all know what your opinion is and guess what none of our opinions matter. The opinions that do actually matter say it’s fine such as the ANA and the fact he’s been openly allowed to operate for years despite being reported to every authority there is.

    It's so condescending the with that nonsense of “stick to that one thread we will allow you to have”. Until you guys own the site and ban the threads, to bad deal with it and lose the internet police attitude
     
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  3. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I agree with @idhair Carr is a great artist, and agree with some of his libertarian positions, but I don't care for his nonexistent year products. The Chinese make those too, like the 1903 - CC dollar I have seen. Most collectors don't find those pieces "cute" or "desirable."
     
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  4. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    I know that you are old and have a very short memory, but YOU sir, started this bitchfest that you so vocally despise . . . . .

    See quotes above.
     
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  5. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Save your insults. I don't care what you think about my opinion. Ignore me if that will make you feel better.
     
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  6. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    Carr's crap is exactly that...crap.
     
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  7. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    Don't we beat this horse about every other month or so?
     
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  8. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

    If we don't, then how can these awesome gif's have any significance?


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  9. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .


    The two Stooges about beyotch and moan about all the consternation that starts when anything Dan Carr is mentioned, yet they are the two that START the bitchfech. If you two would keep your mouths SHUT, "the problem" you complain about would cease. YOU are the problem. Self fulfilling prophecy so you can keep your gripe alive.

    You'll get no pass from me on this. You stir the pot yet complain about the dish. Later in this thread you say, "I like Dan's original work" to try to mask the fact that you initiated the argument.

    Disingenuous båstards.

    The problem has been revealed and solution proposed above.
     
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  10. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

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    What's interesting is THIS is the only forum where mention of DC's name starts any kind of consternation.

    He is well regarded everywhere else.

    Z
     
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  11. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I have tried to be measured in my responses, yet I'm told that I am "ignorant." I try to help people here. Since I am too "ignorant" to provide advice or opinions, I have put him on "ignore."
     
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  12. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    That’s because this is the forum that allowed a troll to go more than 100 pages accusing Carr of everything just short of the Kennedy assassination a few years back. Quite a few members have not been seen since.
     
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  13. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I lost track of all of his insults and name calling. He has only been here a few months and has not had the time to read the rules on this site.

    Those that take the time to read all the post in this thread will understand that there is only one type of product that collectors have a problem with.
    If you read my post you will see that I'm a fan of most of Carr's work but do not agree with anything that looks like a real US coin.

    There is a saying and a rule on this site. Trash the coin and not the member. I post coins all the time that others do not care for and I'm good with that. I don't insult them for having an opinion. It's the way things should be.
     
  14. thomas mozzillo

    thomas mozzillo Well-Known Member

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  15. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

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    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

  17. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    I agree with 100% of this. I have a few Carr creations, and I love them. I even have a few extras I'm going to sell off because they've appreciated well beyond issue price plus the cost of an ANACS slab. But, when I mentioned Dan in another, completely separate thread, for a thread-relevant reason, I jokingly referred to him as "He Who Shall Not Be Named." :p

    People get way too twisted up about his stuff, to the point where sometimes I want to get a microscope and look at my Carr creations to see if any of them have micro-engravings of Dan insulting them, or something. Seriously, you guys all need to chill and you do you.

    John, based on reading your posts and seeing the coins you share from your collection, anybody can tell you are the furthest thing from ignorant. You're entitled to your opinion, but @ZoidMeister has it right here:

    See, there's a reason why Dan uses fantasy dates and publishes exact diagnostics of every single die pair he uses. It's so that even if somehow in the future someone does come up with, say, an authentic 1964-D Peace dollar, all the information necessary to disambiguate his work from the real ones is right there.

    IMO, Dan's stuff is nowhere near dangerous to the hobby, and I'm glad he can make a good living for himself doing what he does. He's a great technician, by which I mean I love his exact renderings of classic coinage, but I don't care too much for most of his original stuff. I do like the state quarter reverses he's done, the coin club medals I've seen, and even the North Marianas Islands World Trade Center coin, but his Amero series doesn't do it for me, and neither do most of his Hard Times tokens. And, truth be told, at some point, I might consider buying a copy of the software he wrote to do this from him and trying to figure out how exactly he renders those classic designs so accurately.

    The bottom line for me is that his fantasy dated coins are probably less dangerous than the old Gallery Mint stuff, which was marked COPY in accordance with the Hobby Protection Act. I've never seen a Dan Carr coin end up slabbed as an authentic coin, as, IIRC, you've previously mentioned happened with an altered Gallery Mint large cent.

    I would say that in order for something to be a fake, it has to be a fake of something. Since he only makes fantasy dated coins, that's not a problem. There were zero Flying Eagle small cents made in 1859 to my knowledge.

    Go back and take a look at who instigates all the fights and tell me again how much you dislike all the fighting. And, no, just posting a thread is not "instigating." You might have been able to convince me that that thread posted by that "wise man" was a good idea a few years ago, but I've seen too much to fall for that anymore.

    Hear, hear! Quoted for truth. Love him, hate him, or don't care about him, anybody on this board is free to post about Dan Carr in any forum where it's on topic. It's not like it's politics or something. If his stuff is so "dangerous" to the hobby, why does he publish all the diagnostics for every single die pair of every overstrike he's ever done? I just don't get it.

    Come on. There's a world of difference between what comes out of the Shanghai mint and what comes out of the Moonlight Mint. For one, the Chinese typically make fakes of coins that actually exist. For another, they're typically low quality, badly executed, ugly, and sometimes not even the correct metal. Dan's stuff is the exact opposite of all of that, and he tells the whole world exactly how to figure out if what they're looking at is his work or not.

    Yeah, seriously.

    Where's the CT suggestion box, anyway? I'd like to propose that "Dan Carr trolling" be made against the rules. It would solve a lot of problems, and cause a few more problems to solve themselves, IMO.

    This will probably be my last post in this thread, so, flame on, guys, if that's what you want to do. I'm out.
     
  18. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    :stop:. It's the Holiday Season !! Over a Cent, ridiculous !
     
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  19. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    All in all if you like it buy it , if you don't don't.
    Me I don't like yellow cars so I've never bought one.
    But it would be nice to see some new Knights of the Coin Table tokens.
    Just saying....Wow it will be winter in a hour or so.
     
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  20. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    @Paul M.

    I never called John ignorant. See my quotes above.

    My statement was that the detractors were either ill informed, OR intentionally slandering Daniel Carr.

    I know the two rabble rousers I quoted were well informed, leaving intentional slander as their other motivation.

    Saying that I called him ignorant is yet another diversion from the truth, something they are famous for in instigating the arguments they claim they despise. As you so astutely observed, the same few "esteemed members" cause the problems they continually complain about. If they deny intentional slander as their motive, they self-ascribe intentional ignorance as their only possible alternate motivation.

    No pass from me in this. The only way to get them to stop, is by shedding clear light on them and their motivations. Make it to painful to continue their misbehavior.

    Clearly, the Carr admirers are not starting any of this. Larry, YOU'RE the problem!

    Z
     
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  21. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I agree with you on this. We all have the right to give our opinion of any coin. Please don't seek to limit or restrict MY rights of free expression through threats, inflammatory statements, lies, intimidation, insults and name calling.
    True. I should have just gave my opinion and left the thread before all the insults and the name calling started. I will never stop giving my opinion of a coin.
     
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