Coin Grading Standards by TPG

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by USS656, Dec 23, 2006.

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  1. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I am saying that making allowances for a weak strike when the entire mintage of a given coin i sknown for being weakly struck - IS the accepted way or right way to grade coins.
     
    GDJMSP, Feb 21, 2009
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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Ben - I would ask you this. Exactly how is it that the TPG's go about manipulating the grades of coins based upon who it was that submitted them when the graders DO NOT know who submitted them ?

    You base your entire premise on the fact that all of these other dealers out there have told you that it must happen because you, as well as the other dealers, do not agree with the grades that were assigned to your coins. And you say that this happens consitently just because it was you that submitted them. At the same time saying that if the very same coins had been submitted by some "favorite" of the TPG that the coins would have received higher grades.

    Well Ben, I hate to tell you this, but it sounds an awful lot to me like you guys don't know how to grade. Or at the least, you don't know how the TPG's grade.

    Wake up and smell the coffee Ben, you are believing in something that is just not true.
     
    GDJMSP, Feb 21, 2009
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  4. bhp3rd

    bhp3rd Die varieties, Gems

    You be right, I'll be happy

    You be right, I'll be happy - I have only submitted one coin for grading in my life and was shocked by that grade being as high as it was when I got it back. As I have said before I hate TPG coins.
    I am around 20 to 30 dealers each month and you gotta know the subject comes up often and all of them would agree with most of my points already made - I am tiring of the subject though as if any of us including me, can get this type of thing all round up, cut and dried, then settled.
    You all believe what you want to it makes no difference to me what you believe, it only matters that I belive it - but one more thing to take a shot at whether I can grade or not, well, - you might all be very shocked and sobered indeed to know who you are suggesting that of.
    Signing off now,
     
    bhp3rd, Feb 21, 2009
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  5. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Anyone can make it sound like they are really important and the best grader in the world , so since I need some sobering up , please tell us you name and then I will bow in Awe:D
    rzage:thumb::whistle:
     
    rzage, Feb 21, 2009
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  6. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I meant PCGS and NGC , And I can see beeing a little more lenient on dates that are not well struck , but as for any specialty designation like FH , FB , or FBL they either have it or they don't .:D
    Rusty:whistle:
     
    rzage, Feb 21, 2009
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  7. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    I agree 100%. But they either have or don't have what - exactly ? By that I mean who defines what FH, FB or FBL actually is ? You ? Me ? The ANA does not. Only the TPG's offer a definition.

    And that's the problem. Because they are the only ones offering a definition, how are we to say that their definition is no good ? Or how are we to say that a coin that they say is is FH - is not FH ?

    Do you get my point ? What do we base our opinion that they are wrong on ?

    Not being arumentative, nor am I defending them. I am merely trying to understand the basis for your comments.
     
    GDJMSP, Feb 22, 2009
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  8. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Thanks , I just always thought that there were standards for these specialty designations , like the SLQ Collecting group , can't remember their name says something like the hairline must be complete and there must be a whole for the ear in order to get a FH designation , I just figured the ANA had these same guidelines , I guess just figuring is what got me into trouble in the first place . And instead of reading three books piecemeal , I'll just concentrate on the ANA , grading guide and then go to the PCGS guide . It would be nice to have one definition for all the tpgs though .
    Rusty
     
    rzage, Feb 22, 2009
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