how to cure polished coins

lets hope i dont get any 1897 rupees in unc polished or Harvey and i are coming after you

 

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Just out of curiosity, what happens when you dip a polished coin? If nothing, how about ATing it, dipping it, and retoning it.

Lot of work, but an interesting experiment!

 

Spock, I did and have read the entire thread and don't appreciate your snippy comment.

I suggest you stick to coin discussions and not try to score off me or any member here.

 

I stand by what I said that all circulated coins have altered surfaces. It is apparent that more than one here misunderstood what I said. And not that I misunderstood what was being discussed.

I understand perfectly what the point of the original post was and the discussion that ensued.

 

rohumpy,

A circulated coin maybe considered an altered coin by some but altered has a totally different meaning in the coin collecting hobby and market! With circulated coins, the surfaces of the coin have been altered unintentionally through the normal use that they were intended for (to conduct commerce). However, at the same time, an "Altered coin" (whether circulated or uncirculated) means that the surfaces of the coin have been altered intentionally not by circulation but by man-made means to change the condition or appearance of the coin. PCGS and NGC will slab circulated coins that are not damaged in any way other than normal circulation wear. However, they will not slab circulated or uncirculated coins for that matter that have damage such as large scratches, gouges, rim dings or altered surfaces. ANACS on the other hand, will slab damaged or altered coins but you can bet your bottom dollar that when they put the label on the slab, they will have noted the damage or alteration in some way!


Frank

 

well your post said you didnt so which is it? i dont appreciate you typing nonsense on my threads without reading. as far as other members are concerned u dont have the right or the authority to speak for them.

read and post or dont post at all

 

As I noted a few threads ago I am now in the process of finding out what REALLY happens to polished coins eventually. I presently have a Walker Half and Mercury Dime on a window sill. They were both massively polished with something that made them almost look like a proof. A few weeks in Acetone and a few days in Distilled water and now just waiting. Presently after a month or so, lost track of time, they are both starting to look like just Uncirc coins. All gloss is vanishing. Need more time. Got a few more that I intend to work on next.

 

I doubt there was any intent on making you irritated. You stated you didn't read this entire post and someone just mentioned you possibly should prior to making assumptions or comments that may or may not have anything to do with what is being discussed. Most members, not all, just say what they think and that is what should be to an extent of course.

 

Thanks Carl. looking to see what you come up with.

 

Way, way back to the original subject. At a coin show today I purchased a Mercury Dime, 1917S that looked like a proof. The notation on the 2x2 was PL. Asked what that was supposed to mean. Dealer said Proof Like. Yeah, right and that is why it was selling for about half of a MS grade. Got it for $10So now it too shall join my attempts to get rid of those polished appearances. Now soaking in Acetone, in a glass jar and to some people's wrong ideas of the Sun, it is in the Sun. Added this one to a few others also soaking in the Acetone. In another jar is a few 1943 Lincoln's that were obviously recoated and/or polished or waxed. Look like a proof too.
All these will eventually go to the kitchen window sill since the ones there now are starting to appear to have lost that polished or overly shinny appearances. Way back I tried stupid things like placing in an over during the making of a pizza. Then with a pan of water. All failed and the coins ended up looking like I just dug them up in my yard. To bury one or two in the yard may well be next.
The thing here is to remember that eventually those coins will still be considered cleaned, maybe. One dealer told me he has done similar to some coins and had them slabbed. Of course what people say and reality is sometimes not the same.

 

I would say that unless you run marathons on a regular basis, this will not happen very quick. This process works well, but results are slow.

 

I'm not too sure of that. I would hazard to guess that if you took a mint state coin and put it into your pocket,along with your other coins, the transformation from mint state to a high circulated grade would occur within a day, perhaps a few hours. :smile

 

You are correct that an MS coin will go to AU very rapidly because the smallest evidence of wear will make it so, but it will take a long time to go to, say VF.

 

I would have to agree, but a coin with an altered surface is going to be an AU55 at best anyway. So, to remove evidence of cleaning on an AU coin would take quite a while is my point. Sorry if I did not specify.

 

Again, I have to agree. I guess I was referring to the amount of wear. We are kind of dealing with a questionable practice here, and I do not want anyone to think I practice or endorse this method. By the way, why are there so many questions on cleaning coins on this site anyway? Has anyone learned anything about coin collecting yet?

 

What's so special about the damage done by polishing and all other types of damage (even of a coin worn almost to the point of date obliteration) that makes a polished coin "ungradeable"?

 

I can tell you that I haven't learned all that much. That's one of the reasons why I joined cointalk.

I did learn, however, that one should never clean coins. I can still remember doing it to a whole bunch of coins when I was a kid (not too long ago, say 10 years), fortunately not too valuable. I have to say that for a beginner, it's not intuitive at all why one shouldn't clean a very dirty coin.

 

I'm referring to nice specimens that are ruined forever. You probably won't do any further damage to a VG common date Morgan. But when you take an AU or uncirculated coin to the whizzer, you remove luster. To someone not into coin collecting, it may look better. The truth is, most collectors cringe at the thought of swirl marks and it usually lowers the value considerably. I refuse to buy key dates that are cleaned, even at half price.