1923-s planchet defect?

Found this looking through some rolls of penny's a couple years back, was just wondering what kind of mint error it is. It certainly looks like something is going on, i'm still learning a lot about mint errors any and all input is greatly appreciated.

 

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Hey again. Can I offer some tips ? Try to crop and remove coin from holder if you can, to shoot.

 

Thanks i'll work on it first time every using a forum for collecting, i found that and a nice 1920 s both out of circulation, i'll see if i can't get a cropped one and edit it in there.

 

Ok . cool. I'm interested in seeing more of he 1923s though . Could be something there .

 

I tried to clean it up, did that help? i will also add a picture of the back in a minute just gotta crop the photo.

 

Lamination or a gouge? Can you please post a photo with a closeup of the area in front of the face from the nose to the date? Thank you.

 

Does that help?

 

Also i didn't literally try to clean the coin, just the photos of it . Also thank you @SensibleSal66 for the advice, i will make sure to crop and remove from 2x2s when posting pictures here .

 

I'm going to wait on someone with a lot more experience for this one .

 

I appreciate any input you have, i was thinking its a planchet defect, but i'm no expert that's for sure. You can tell me what you are thinking SensibleSal66 and i'm sure others will leave their feedback as well, i am still shocked i found that in circulation honestly thats a harder date and to pluck one out of a roll from the grocery store was a real treat don't think i'll forget that one.

 

Look at this little bird I got several year ago at the convenience . The guy say" oh Canadian ! " I say " Oh I like them ", he he !

 

thats a beautiful flying eagle, i'm jealous i wish i could find one of those in my pocket change, i've actually found the canadian penny that has the bird on the back the commerative the RCM did.

 

I know right . I think he thought it was that. I knew better . Was I wrong ?

 

@lordmarcovan Good analysis . I missed the "woodie " thing . I also agree on the lamination error .

 

Yes to Lamination on the Reverse.
Improperly Mixed Alloy issue on this planchet caused the lamination crack and delamination of a bit of copper on the Obverse.

Nice find. Thanks for sharing.

 

I too am in the lam camp
Really nice circulation find

 

Thank you all, its probably my favorite coin i've found out of circulation, there is just so much going on with it. I also appreciate the input from everyone, i'm no expert, but i love collecting and as soon as i saw that coin i could tell something different was going on.

 

I would tend to agree with the afore mentioned, But I wouldn't rule out a faulty planchet. Also looks like this coin has rim finning to the east.

 

They are actually somewhat more common for branch ie Denver or San Francisco mints - the bronze was mixed and rolled in Philadelphia, planchets cut and then the blanks were sent to the branch mints. Philadelphia mint had a way of keeping the best mixed blanks for their usage and sending the not quite as good stuff off to the minions in the branch mints. Woodies as they are known as are fairly common from the teens into the late 1930s.