Looking for an unbiased opinion..........

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by DaveIam, Feb 12, 2009.

  1. DaveIam

    DaveIam Junior Member

    Not really heavy clay, but clayish! The soil here is actually very kind to silver. There are some Seateds & Barbers I've found that do come close to this one(I even have a few that still have patina!) LOL!
     
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  3. The_Cave_Troll

    The_Cave_Troll The Coin Troll

    au details cleaned
     
  4. DaveIam

    DaveIam Junior Member

    ?????? You must understand I'm new to this!
    By the way, I like your Jefferson quote, reminds me of my favorite tshirt, "The tree of liberty is getting thirsty"
     
  5. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Frosty dimes? I didn't think they had enough surface area to really so that affect.

    Ruben
     
  6. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    Dave,

    I guess you have stumbled on a new way to store coins! Drop them into a privy (what we call an Outhouse here in the South) and the crap will protect them.:bigeyes: Interesting story though about where it was found and how it was cleaned!

    I don't know if these will help but I cropped the pictures and edited them only slightly and have posted them below.


    Frank
     

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  7. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    I suspect two things happened here. First, the crust likely formed quickly around the coin after going in the ground, essentially sealing out any corrosive forces from getting to the surface -- that's why after you removed it no signs of corrosion are left on the coin. Second, you removed all the "evidence" when you overdipped / cleaned the coin and removed this "crud" coating (along with quite a bit of luster).
     
  8. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    From reading, I believe it was customary for privy users to intermittently throw some lime or soil into the pit to help with the problems of odors and flies. Possibly this is what encrusted the coin, keeping out air and acids that might have damaged it. Just a thought, no plans to research the matter.
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    All I can say is WOW ! You were right Mike, the pics had me completely fooled. The new pics on the other hand show the coin for what it is. And Matt, that was good call on the polishing. I never would have guessed it based on the first pics.

    And yes Ruben, you can find frosty examples in just about all denominations from this time period. You just don't find them everyday. Knowing that, more than anything, is what caused me to interpret the first pics as I did.
     
  10. DaveIam

    DaveIam Junior Member

    Thanks Frank for fixing the pic.
    KSparrow, your right about the lime. Used extensively in the privies/outhouses over here.
    Everyone else, A BIG thanks on the comments and info about the coin!
    Now before I put this post to rest, a few more questions.
    Bear with me, as I know these questions are going to sound like I'm really ignorant about all of this (I actually am!):goofer:
    It's obvious to me that according to the responses this coin would never have a chance to be slabbed & graded.
    Why would a coin with such detail not be considered? I've seen extremely worse condition coins slabbed & graded.
    Would it be slabbable (new word) if I left it laying around for a few years and it developed a tarnish?
    Why on other silver coins I've found, after only using "dish soap" & a soft cloth, they would come out fine with nice tone & patina? I'll be posting some examples later on.
    Should I just try to ebay this coin and see what comes of it, or sit on it?
     
  11. heliospace

    heliospace Junior Member

    If you don't know what you are doing and this is not in negative light, but if you really have no idea what you are doing when it comes to 'cleaning' coins, and really NICE coins at that, please contact somebody who does and submit your coin there if you find them to be as nice as this dime is from now on and worthy of being cleaned and even slabbed.

    http://www.ncscoin.com/ is the only one I am familiar with...I'm sure others can suggest more.

    Regards,

    Aaron

    Edit: Nice find by the way. ;)
     
  12. DaveIam

    DaveIam Junior Member

     
  13. heliospace

    heliospace Junior Member

    Dave,

    At least you have a good heart about it. It happens. You know, I've was guilty of rubbing my first .999 silver proof coins I purchased back in 2000. I had been told by my old man that I should never clean a coin. Well, I never have. But I did wipe a spot off some silver once...and left a bunch of nice hairline trace marks on the mirror finish too. Not detectable by eye, not easily anyways. But a magnifier, definitely tons.

    We live and learn, yeah? And hey, it's cool that you're into metal detecting. I am opting to go into it. And seeing what you've found makes me want to do it fast. I sort of have an idea of a spot of where there may be buried treasure [laugh!] at least in my hopes and dreams. ;)

    Anyways, I am going to link you to another site that may become very useful for you during your metal detecting and cleaning escapades. I have to find the link.

    *time passes...*

    *time passes...*

    Ah, here it is:

    http://www.pcgs.com/articles/article_view.chtml?artid=690&universeid=105&type=1

    I don't think that's precisely the one, but there's some advice in there... It was a PCGS article I remember that was pretty detailed...Then again, that may be the one! It's been awhile. But it does offer some good advice, albeit mild.

    Have a great night, Dave.

    Aaron
     
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