DD and MD...

If a doubled die is part of the die, eventually the die will begin to deteriorate... Or there might be MD when a doubled die is used. So what would such a coin look like? Just curious. Is it possible to have a MD or DDD with a DD?

~Rob

 

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I would say ..... I'm only 54 . I'll let the "elders" to chime in and more experienced answer .

 

That question made my brain hurt..

 

Sorry, not my intent. I just have a Jefferson nickel with some weird doubling more than likely DDD and/or MD. It appears as though the doubling goes to both sides of some letters. It is a well circulated coin. I'm not saying I believe it to be a doubled die coin with MD/DDD. It just got me thinking.

I would imagine the DDD or MD would eliminate or hide the DD, or some such.

~Rob

 

How much could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood ?

 

Well, some dudes figured it out by determining how much dirt they "chuck" and then, based on the density of a type of wood vs dirt, punch in the calculation. I can't remember the article I read about it but they determined the approximation. Isn't that funny?

~Rob

 

Yes very ..and hey ...don't overthink ... you'll get a headache . LOL

 

I'm seriously saying No. It's almost impossible . JMO

 

All that has to happen for strike doubling is the coin has to skip or hop a little when it's struck. So it's not unimpossible.

 

But probably impossible .

 

I'm sure you could find an example for 72 lmc where the master hub was doubled.

 

Not really!

1) True hub doubling on a die occurs when it is made.

2) Machine doubling occurs when a loose die strikes a planchet in a rapid, back-and-forth movement.

3) Die deterioration doubling occurs when a die begins to wear from continued use.

It is possible to have #1 & #2 on the same coin. It is possible to have #1 & #3 on the same coin. It is also possible to have #1, #2 & #3 on the same coin.

 

Mark... I wonder if I have a quarter with MHR and some DDD. I'm sure I'm seeing things and dreaming, as I normally do. Ha ha ha... 1968 D 25c...

 

I am saying yes. I am currently searching a 5,000 piece original 1998 P sealed bag of Lincoln Cents. I have found several distinct doubled dies so far. But I am also finding deterioration doubling and what appears to be a progression of the same doubling as the exact same markers are appearing on them. I am seeing this as I also am seeing that this same die was heavily polished and perhaps several times. So far I am not seeing it in Wexler's files. There is also clashing that seems to progress. It starts in Bay 4 and then bays 4 & 9, sometimes weak and other times strong. There is also a large obverse die crack on some and not on others. So die wear and die polishing are playing a part in my finds. I could be wrong and may be working with two different reverse dies but the similarities are strong.

 

If you really want to scramble your brain, ponder this.
And if the doubled die struck the coin twice with a slight rotation, would you have a MD/DD, DD/MD, DD/DD, Quadruple Die, DDD/DD?

 

Good 'ole Chuck Norris!

 

I know right , almost as good looking a me ..

 

Here is a 1960 Jefferson Nickel with lots of anomalies... I see a lot of MD and most likely DDD. There are other aspects of the coin I look at and I wonder what was going on with the die or the coin, or both... There seems to be "doubling" to either the west or the east to the lettering on the same side of the coin, or both east and west to some letters/numbers.

The pictures with this post are of the obverse...






The R in TRUST is odd...



I remember seeing a LMC with a Lincoln head with a short portion of his face/chin/mouth with similar look and they called it a DD... Given there does not appear to be any more "doubling" above or below the forehead what say you?


But wait... There's more...

I will post the reverse in a bit...

 

Here is the obverse...










More... I know... ugggghhh...