Classic Head Half cent to the type set.

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by johnny54321, Feb 12, 2009.

  1. johnny54321

    johnny54321 aspiring numismatist

    This was a new addition that came in today. It is a bit darker in hand, but still very attractive in my opinion. It has a few hits, and the surface is a tad rough in places; but overall I'd say its a keeper.:D
     

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  3. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Love 'em. One of my favorite series. I have one coming as well !

    Much more affordable than Classic Head 1c.

    Congrats !
     
  4. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector

    nice half cent copper. I need one for my 7070 still.
     
  5. Fish

    Fish Half Cent Nut

    Good color, except what's going on in front of Liberty's profile? That looks really peculiar. Nice coin for a type set. If you ever upgrade and want something kinda neat, keep your eyes out for 1833. Only one variety that year, and the latest die state has some really super clash marks.
     
  6. johnny54321

    johnny54321 aspiring numismatist

    thanks. Yeah, there is a bit of scruff here and there that shows up stronger in the pics than in hand. What do you think it grades? I've been comparing to certified ones on heritage, and I think it would grade at least EF-40.
     
  7. Fish

    Fish Half Cent Nut

    Details-wise it's a solid EF. Those maks are murder, though. If I were to net-grade it I would call it an F-15 to VF-20, depending on how it looked in hand.

    I hate scratches, though, other people would probably be kinder to it. :)
     
  8. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    def a keeper
     
  9. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Congrats on your NEWP.
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Just talking out loud here, and I will gladly defer to those with more experience in early copper than me. But does not the surface of that coin bother anybody ?

    I mean, I know that light corrosion is normal on these older copper coins. But that coin does not have corrosion. It was either struck with the rustiest dies I have ever seen or it is a cast fake. In particular look at the area around the date, the right field and the hair. Even the headband is extremely rough. On the reverse the areas around the legends and even the leaves themselves - all of these areas are completely covered with small raised bumps.

    I truly hate to cast aspersions on the coin, but that is what I see.
     
  11. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    My guess-timate is genuine, with porosity caused by light environmental exposure.

    Normally, cast fakes look like crapita. If it's a cast counterfeit, it's much better than most.
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    But environmental exposure - corrosion - does not have just raised bumps like this coin does. It has pitting as well. This coin has no pitting, nor any other signs of corrosion whatsoever.
     
  13. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Yep.

    To me, it looks like porosity / pitting at 1am on the obverse.

    Johnny54321 - what say ye ? Porosity / pits ? Are those micro-dimples incuse or raised ?
     
  14. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    The first thing I thought when I saw this coin was the funk in front of Libbie - especially 'twixt the throat and star #2. It almost looks like a botched repair job. It's still my biggest concern. Dunno what that looks like in hand; some things look worse in photos.
     
  15. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    While the coin looks 100% authentic to me, the coin does have surface issues and has likely been recolored IMO -- I shared similar sentiments privately with the OP (and now publically) -- as I didn't want to be Debbie Downer.

    But since you bring it up.... ;)
     
  16. johnny54321

    johnny54321 aspiring numismatist

    I don't think the photos portray the coin accurately. The coin is much darker in hand, almost black. Hardly any of the abrasions are noticeable in hand, and I never questioned it's authenticity like I did with the large cent. I will take better photos, and weigh the coin tonight and hopefully we can get some better answers.
     
  17. johnny54321

    johnny54321 aspiring numismatist

    Weight: 5.42 grams.
    Passes the ring test.
    Here is a closeup of the date area on the obverse. This picture more accurately represents the color. There is some "scruff" of some sort in the field by libertys chin. This is the only place where that appears.
     

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  18. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Nice coin! Maybe recolored, but a nice coin with nice details. Sometimes these older coppers are really hard to photograph in the dark colors.
     
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