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  1. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

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  3. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I think those are on the holder, some kind of tape residue maybe. Now the spotting under liberty is definitely on the coin but IMO doesn't really detract.
     
  4. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    That was kind of what I thought I was seeing, but I find it rather odd that they did not clean or reholder it.
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Based on the pic I don't think it's on the holder at all. The white spots appear to be lint and I'd bet that coin has been wiped. I'm amazed that they slabbed it.
     
  6. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    I'll go with tape or residue on the holder, the spots appear to float above the coin, not on it, unless my depth perception is off. Don't forget, I am heavily medicated this week:rolleyes:
     
  7. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    I think it's the holder.....
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Consider this guys, if that stuff is on the holder - then why did the coin only get a 63 ? Go look at the coin and find me the marks that warrant a 63.
     
  9. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    There are marks on the reverse and the coin appears to have below average luster.
     
  10. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    And 1916's should be razor sharp, look at the weakness in the strike on the reverse
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Now that the auction is closed, check the pics now that they aren't the flash version.

    I'll grant that the white specs may be tape residue, but those horizontal lines on both sides - no way. And there no way near enough marks on that coin to warrant a 63 otherwise.

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  12. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Would.nt a weak strike just limit it to under a 65 ?
    rzage
     
  13. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    BTW, Doug, all you have to do is turn off the flash and you will get the same pics while the auction is running. Since I won the auction, I will let you know when I receive the coin. However, now that you have the pics here, look at the area as the white line goes off the bottom of the coin. I am nearly positive that that white stuff goes beyond the coin.
     
  14. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    It is. That is only a 63.
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Fair enough, I eagerly await the results.
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Going by ANA standards - yes. Going by TPG standards - no.
     
  17. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Can you see what I am saying about the bottom of the line?
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yes, of course. But I still think the coin has been wiped. I just don't buy all of those marks being on the slab and I think the 63 grade reinforces that.

    We shall see what we shall we. I don't mind being wrong - doesn't bother me a bit.
     
  19. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    Gd makes too much sense sometimes, it's frustrating:smile
     
  20. Boss

    Boss Coin Hoarder

    Looks like the holder to me. I zoomed up close and I think the coin looks great. Better than my 63 RB 16 S
     
  21. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    TPG dont have standards that they follow but u figured that out a long time ago.

    nah the whole market there is only one GD so it doesnt make a diff :D but yes he is right this once :D
     
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