I need some help identifying dates on Israeli coins. I am using the Krause book, World Coins 1901-2000, 36th Edition, page 1212-1213. The book shows the characters and what they convert to both in the gregorian calender and the Israel calender. But.... i have this coin shown below.. the font/text style or somethign is very different then the way the dates are listed in the Krause books.... I cant decipher the dates. Anyone have a chart that shows this new text font or whatever and what the date converts to? The reverse image of the coin, the bottom line of text (sorry the coin is rotated funny) it 'looks' like the date is 1979, but it doesnt show all the characters that the book shows it should have for it to be 1979, it looks to be missing the 1st charcter... so i dunno. anyone fluent in hebrew? :headbang:
From the 21st Century Krause, 2d Ed., p. 188: So in your case the missing first digit is perfectly normal.
thanks So... the date on this coin is the smaller text to the bottom of the reverse? and it is 1979? to me, all the letters look like 'numbers' edit: so after 1981, they start usign the 1st letter/number digit again?
Correct. No, it's 740 - meaning 5740. Krause gives the date of KM#100 as 1980, but Hebrew Year 5740 actually extended from September 22, 1979 through September 10, 1980 on the Western calendar, so 1979 is also appropriate. It's the other way around. Hebrew consonants, have secondary meanings as numbers. Yup. BTW the coin is a 1/2 Lira commemorating the 25th anniversary of the Bank of Israel, and was only issued in 35,000 sets.
The coin is 1/2 Lira from Israel. It is from the Jewish year התשל"ו which is 5736. To convert from Jewish year you subtract 3760, therefor, it is from the year 1976. If you need more help with Jewish coins, feel free to PM me, I am from Israel and therefor know them and how to read them..
The Hebrew and English calender aren't in sync. The Jewish calender is Lunar and start on Nissan in Spring and Rosh Hashona in the Fall....I know that is confusing but common in the ancient world. Nissan is the yearly beginning for kings, and Rosh Hashana from the beginning for creation (the trees were created full of fruit) Ruben
To me, and mind you i have very limited experiance in translating langauages outside of english .... it looks like both 5736 AND 5740, and i know it cant be both lol Not to discount what you say hontonai, but could it be the 5736? or are you convinced it is the 5740? The coin in the picture was given to me by an old coworker on a trip back from isreal, so he recieved it as pocket change for something. Unfortunately, he is no longer with the company so i cant ask him for translations. If the coin is from 5740 and part of a limited edition set... cool Thaks Ruben i knew about the calenders being different... but not so much about the dates or events that marked the begining or end of the year. cool history. :thumb:
5740 will be התש"ם, the coin in the picture is indeed from 5736.. If you think this is hard to read, try deciding between a year that ends with a 7 and a year that ends with a 4. the letter for 4 is ד and for 7 is ז, they are very similar.. I speak and read perfect Hebrew and with some of the smaller coins have problems deciding between the two If the coin in the picture was given to you by someone who got it as change, he had this coin for a long time.. this coin was circulated until 1980, and then the "Israeli Lira" was replaced with "Israeli Sheqel". 5 years later, the Sheqel was again replaced, this time by the "New Israeli Sheqel", so this coin is from 2 "currencies" ago..
Ugg What PIA you guys are First of all - can we READ right side UP???? תשל״ו which is 400 + 300 + 30 + 6 - the 5000 is implied 5736 which is 1976 Some helpful links http://www.compugene.com/calendar.php http://www.inner.org/gematria/gemchart.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_numerals#Calculations Now say goodnight Gracie Reuvain
Thansk for all the help the biggest problem i have is that the icons on the coins representing numbers, do not always match the icons in the books. Its like a different font. And not knowing Hebrew at all, i cant always pick up on that the icon i am seeign is actually this other number.... Kind of like what Talon and Claw mentioned (4 is ד and for 7 is ז), only he knows the lingo lol then if you take those numbers, and change the font... how is someone who doesnt know the langauge supposed to pick up on it lol (by posting silly questions to forums )
Ok, first of all.. thanks to all those who helped! I scanned these coins a year or longer ago, and could never date them, so they just sat.. waiting. Talon and Claw was kind enough to date all the Israeli coins i had scanned. So with MANY thanks for his help... i was able to post everythign to my site Nothing extravagant mind you i am just glad i was able to get them posted lol Israel - check them all out
