Some uncommon Constantine I coins from London

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  1. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    I was sorting through some coins and noticed that I had a few rarer Constantine coins from the London mint. Most have some tie to the war with Maxentius.

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    Constantine I
    A.D. 311- 312
    22x23mm 4.4gm
    CONSTANTINVS P F AVG; laureate and cuirassed bust right.
    SPES REIPVBL; Prince riding left, r. raised, l. holding up spear, on horse pawing seated captive to left, ✶ in right field.
    in ex. PLN
    RIC VI London 241

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    Constantine I
    A.D. 310-312
    22x23mm 5.0gm
    CONSTANTI-NVS AV[G]; laureate and cuirassed bust left, holding eagle tipped scepter.
    COMITI-AVGG NN; Sol standing left, chlamys across left shoulder, right hand holding up globe, whip in left, in right field star.
    In ex. PLN
    RIC VI London –-

    This bust type (Q) is not in RIC or Huvelin with this obverse legend (1g), it should come after RIC VI London 181

    FELICITAS_AVGG_NN.jpg

    Constantine I
    A.D. 312- 313
    22x23mm 4.3gm
    CONSTANTINVS P F AVG; laureate & cuirassed bust right.
    FELICITAS AVGG NN; Roma, helmeted, seated left, holding branch in right hand and globe in left; ✶ in left field.
    In ex. PLN
    RIC VI London 246


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    Constantine I
    A.D. 312- 313
    21x24mm 3.5gm
    CONSTANTINVS P F AVG; laureate & cuirassed bust right.
    ROMAE AETER AVGG; Roma, helmeted, seated left, holding branch in right hand and globe in left; star in left field.
    In ex. PLN
    RIC VI London 269


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    Constantine I
    A.D. 312- 313
    23x24mm 4.1gm
    CONSTANTINVS P F AVG; laureate and cuirassed bust right.
    SECVRITAS AVGG; Securitas standing facing, head left, legs crossed, right hand on head, left arm leaning on column; * in left field.
    In exergue PLN
    RIC VI London 277
     
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  3. thejewk

    thejewk Well-Known Member

    What an excellent selection of rare types, and from a most interesting era. Here are the three coins in my collection from the same period:

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    I hope to add examples of the types you show to my collection at some point as well.
     
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  4. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    Here's another coin from London with Constantine really hoping that his army lives up to the implications of the reverse legend...spoiler alert -- it did.

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    Constantine I
    A.D. 310-12
    21x23mm 3.6gm
    CONSTANTINVS P F AVG; laureate helmet and cuirassed bust left with spear pointing forward and shield on left arm.
    CONCORD MILIT; Concordia standing left, holding standard in each hand; ✶ in right field
    In ex. PLN
    RIC VI London –-


    This coin is not listed in RIC with this bust type (CC). It should be listed after London 197. It is in Huvelin as #81. It is in the new London mint book (Lee & Toone) as either 7.04.012 or 7.04.013, the difference being 12 is cuirassed and 13 is draped and cuirassed, with the question being “are all examples actually draped and cuirassed”. On this coin it is too worn to speculate.


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    It came with the old holder above. I have another from the same collection dated 1867. It's amazing that someone wrote on it in red and then crossed it out-- philistine!
     
  5. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    If only I had that penmanship on the original holder!
     
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  6. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    The old collection that the holder belongs to was probably from the Low Countries and the coin might have been a local find from somewhere on the coast of Flanders.

    For good measure, although not as rare as the types already posted, an old British find:

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  7. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    Really cool coins, don't think I have any from the ancient London mint.

    What does the "P" in the mint mark signify?

    John
     
  8. thejewk

    thejewk Well-Known Member

    I think the best guess is Pecunia.
     
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  10. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    I have a few in my collection from the same emission. Here's a couple of obv/rev combinations that haven't been posted yet. (Some of these may have come from you, Victor):
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    London mint, A.D. 310-312
    RIC 177
    Obv: CONSTANTINVS P A-VG
    Rev: COMITI AVGG NN - Sol, with whip and globe
    PLN in exergue; star in right field
    24 mm, 4.1 g.
    (Unrecorded obverse inscription break.)

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    London mint, A.D. 310-312
    RIC 195
    Obv: CONSTANTINVS P F AVG
    Rev: CONCOR-D MILIT - Concordia holding standard in each hand
    PLN in exergue; star in right field
    23 mm, 4.2 g.

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    London mint, A.D. 310-312
    RIC 222
    Obv: CONSTANTINVS P F AVG
    Rev: PRINCIPI IV-VENTVTIS - Prince, head left, with globe and inverted spear
    PLN in exergue; star in right field
    24 mm, 4.3 g.
     
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  11. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    here are two Mars issues for Constantine

    an earlier type--

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    Constantine I
    A.D. 307- 310
    25x26mm 6.8g
    IMP CONSTANTINVS P F AVG; Laureate and cuirassed bust right.
    MARTI PATRI PROPVG; Mars, naked but for chlamys, advancing right, holding transverse spear, shield on left arm.
    In ex. PLN
    RIC VI London 108


    and a left star Mars issued post Maxentian defeat

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    Constantine I
    A.D. 312- 313
    22mm 4.7gm
    CONSTANTINVS P F AVG; laureate and cuirassed bust right.
    MARTI CONSERVATORI; Mars in military dress, stg. r., reversed spear in r. hand, l. on shield set on the ground, cloak across r. shoulder, ✶ in left field.
    in ex. PLN
    RIC VI London 254
     
  12. thejewk

    thejewk Well-Known Member

    I ordered a MARTI CONSERVATORI type for Constantine at London yesterday, but it's from the following issue of left star coins after the weight was reduced. Looking forward to seeing it in hand.
     
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  13. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

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    RI Constantine I AVG Follis Votive XX seated captives 2.69g 18mm RIC VII 191 London
     
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  14. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    Oh. So we've moved on to left sided stars, have we?
    Unfortunately, these are in rougher shape:
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    London mint, A.D. 312-313
    RIC 246
    Obv: CONSTANTINVS P F AVG
    Rev: FELICIT-A-S AVGG NN - Roma, helmeted, seated left, holding globe in left hand, raising branch with right
    PLN in exergue; star in left field
    23 mm, 4.2 g.

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    London mint, A.D. 312-313
    RIC 265
    Obv: CONSTANTINVS P F AVG
    Rev: PRINCIPI IV-VENTVTIS - Prince, standing, in military dress and cloak, holding globe and transverse spear
    PLN in exergue; star in left field
    24 mm, 4.0 g.

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    London mint, A.D. 312-313
    RIC 277
    Obv: CONSTANTINVS P F AVG
    Rev: SECVRI-TAS AVGG - Securitas, standing, head turned left, with legs crossed; holding right hand on head and leaning left arm on column
    PLN in exergue; star in left field
    23 mm, 4.5 g.
     
  15. thejewk

    thejewk Well-Known Member

    @gsimonel You have an admirable collection of hard to find types. Have you been actively collecting London mint coins for a long time?
     
  16. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    Thank you, Jewk. I started collecting ancients about 15-20 years ago. I bought small lots of uncleaned coins, cleaned them up and tried to ID them. One day I found this coin in a batch of uncleaned LRBs. Turns out its pretty scarce. That's what got me interested in coins of CtG, so for the past 12 years or so I've been on the lookout for different reverses of his bronze coins. I've put together of collection of his bronzes, but it doesn't compare to what Victor has.
     
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  17. thejewk

    thejewk Well-Known Member

    I've spent some of the morning looking through your collection after following the link in your signature, lots of interesting things I didn't know existed for sure. Coins of Constantine cover a large temporal and geographic spread for sure, and it's interesting to compare the contemporaneous output from the different mints. I've stuck to London so far, but I can see myself branching out a little more at some point into other LRB areas.
     
  18. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    One of the more interesting aspects is the comparison of west, with mints under Constantine's control, with east, where the mints were controlled by Galerius and later, Licinius. That's where you see the Mars/Hercules, Sol/Jupiter divides. Once Constantine defeated Licinius, you no longer see different deities depicted from different locations. For the most part, that is.
     
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