Here is another "I just won this on Ebay" thread - "what do you think" : 1831 Cent

Put in my bid for this coin this morning just before going to work. I really did not expect to win it. When i came back, surprise!

Seems like a nice addition to my late date collection.

What do you guys think?

Eduard

 

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nice coin!

no idea on grade but i'm gonna guess VF?

 

She's real nice, Ed. Don' know how to grade her, so can't help you there. I think you should send it to me, though, before the German Police try to confiscate it.

 

Nice.
Looks original.
And I agree with the VF.

 

Not bad. I'd be a bit concerned with the green I see on the reverse.

Please keep us updated when it arrives!

 

p.s. I agree with VF.

 

I see doubling of Liberty's facial profile! Cool.

 

Nice Coin. I would give it a VF-35.

 

Thanks everyone. I saw that double profile and thought it looked really interesting.
This appears to be a nice coin overall, in spite of the rub on the top of hair and above the head. We'll see when it gets here and i have it on-hand. Maybe a candidate for Desertgems' Verdigone?

Concerning the attribution, i was looking at Goldbergs recent sale of the Naftzger Collection to see if i could attribute it with any of the 1831s in that sale (beautiful coins there BTW!)
but was unable to. If anybody can help here, i would greatly appreciate it.

I have the impression that attributing these late dates by Newcomb numbers is even more difficult than attributing the 1793-1814 series by Sheldon numbers....

Thanks,

Eduard

 

I believe it's an N-3 (R-1). Please check for recutting to the right of the N and above the E in CENT to confirm.

 

p.s. these middle dates are a bit tougher than the earlier dates, but NOWHERE near as hard as the late dates (say beyond 1840). Unlike the steam-pressed coins of the later period, the letters were punched by hand into the dies used to strike these middle-dates, so slight positioning differences make attribution tedious but not difficult. In the case of this coin, it was the position of the 2nd S in STATES versus the leaves below it which were used to attribute the coin.

 

I'm outnumbered here but I don't see anything keeping it from being EF-40.

 

p.p.s. Eduard, you really should consider buying a copy of Wright and/or Noyes if you're serious about collecting these coins.

 

Nice appearing coin! Like the profile and color!

Jim

 

The resolution on my phone's display isn't that great, but from what I can see I'd call it an above-average EF40. With better pics and from my latop, it might look better or worse. It looks extremely nice anyways, great buy!

 

Another winner, Eduard !

I'm following in Mike's footsteps (again !). I concur... I think it's N-3 r.1. The reverse positioning of the leaf under the D in UNITED clinched it for me (along with others). And that E in STATES.

I've always felt these are a little easier, particularly for the reverse dies.

Attributing certain coins is maddening. Capped Bust Halves. Orienting those cockamamie star points to the denticles. :desk: Have mercy.

 

Awesome coin. Could use verdigone or Blue Ribbon and acetone if you were concerned about the verdigris.

 

Once again thank guys for your comments - a wide range of opinions on the grade there.

And thank You Leadfoot for the attribution. I will try to get a copy of the Noyes book when i visit the US this summer.

Eduard

 

well i still havent found pridmore