Egypt Drachm: Fake Green Patina

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  1. Macromius

    Macromius Well-Known Member

    @Kentucky Did I strip the remaining patina from these coins or not? Everything else is irrelevant at this point.
     
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  3. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    In order to tell that, we would have to see the "before" photo or know what you used for cleaning. OK, I see you used sodium sesquicarbonate for a short time. It probably didn't remove any patina according to how you say you used it, so anything that was removed was fake.
     
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  4. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    For educational purposes, here's what one of these looks like with its patina stripped. (Don't look at me, I SWEAR I didn't do it. On the other hand, it was "previously held by" a museum. :troll:)

    Hadrian - Drachm ex Grover Tyche 1967.JPG HADRIAN
    AE Drachm. 24.78g, 32.7mm. EGYPT, Alexandria, RY 21 (AD 136/7). Emmett 1063.21; Dattari 1870; RPC 6219 (10 spec.). O: Bare head left. R: Tyche reclining left, on lectisternium, holding rudder; L KA above.
    Ex Robert L. Grover Collection of Roman-Egyptian Coinage, previously held by the Art Institute of Chicago (1980.973)
     
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  5. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Take a deep breath, realize you specifically asked for criticism and know that I'm not the only one who thinks you did more harm than good. There are much safer ways to clean off applied patina. And, no, I don't like painted coins. That was you being childish saying, "you guys line painted coins."
    I can see you are "an emotional guy" now.
    But when I responded I didn't try to hurt your feelings. I was not kidding when I said I've posted mistakes here as well and thought you might've understood that you made a mistake and that's why you asked for feedback.
    You didn't remove ALL the patina. But certainly there is a considerable amount of raw bronze showing now compared to before.
     
  6. doucet

    doucet Well-Known Member

    I stripped this one down to bare metal right after I got it.

    Just couldn't look at it the way it was. I'm not really sure what was on it.

    The middle photo was halfway through cleaning. I think I used acetone.

    After it was cleaned Dougsmit told me to just leave it on a window sill for a couple years, and so I did.

    The last photo was taken about a year later. It's slowly getting another patina.

    That all was several years ago. It looks even better now, but I don't have a recent photo.



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  7. Macromius

    Macromius Well-Known Member

    Look at the picture again. There is not one millimeter of exposed "raw" bronze in the photo of my coins. There is a thick brown patina on both, with no metallic highlights. You are compounding your uninformed insults in an effort to save face.

    To everyone else: I know it's not wise to engage with these types on an internet forum but in my world rudeness and blatant ill-informed assumptions beg to be called out. You can timidly walk on by assuming that you are just witnessing a difference of opinion, but someday you may be on the receiving end... If and when it happens to you I wish you well.
     
  8. PlanoSteve

    PlanoSteve Well-Known Member

    His name is Jethro! :smuggrin::p:joyful:
     
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  9. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    You are the one who harmed the coin and asked for feedback. I gave you some and tried to keep it funny and friendly. Then I found out how sensitive you are and regret it. I am sorry if I hurt your feelings. I really thought you understood that the coin was damaged by what you had put about you understanding if others preferred the original photos (which you have deleted once 2 people agreed that they were better left alone or if at least you would have taken a less stringent approach to cleaning. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings and feel bad that you have let it cause you so much stress.
    But then you reacted so negatively and rudely. You say some day you may be on the receiving end. Yep, that's how I feel right now. And all I was doing was giving my opinion to someone who asked for it.
    You will be the first person that I have put on ignore but that's just what I am going to do. As a friend on the way out I will give you advice, don't clean your coins so aggressively, don't ask for feedback. You have shown you cannot take it.
     
  10. Macromius

    Macromius Well-Known Member

    @Plano My name is Jeff(ro) but my nickname really is Jethro!
    Hey Ryro, keep posting. It just gets better...

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  11. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    I hope you realize that you are being way more insulting to @Ryro than he's been to you. Most importantly, you've been repeatedly attacking him personally. However offended you may be by his opinion on your coin, he hasn't personally attacked you. I suggest you cool it, please
     
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  12. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I don’t get it. If I miscleaned a coin and people said it didn’t look that good, I would take it as constructive and try to change my strategy the next time. Is that a foreign concept?
     
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  13. Macromius

    Macromius Well-Known Member

    Before I let this be I would like to say this: A member of this community wrongly insisted repeatedly that I had ruined a coin by stripping it down to the bare metal. It was my coin. I was sitting here looking at its patina in my hand. He could not possibly examine it in person, yet kept insisting he was right. From my perspective that's insane. I think anyone who has physical access to a coin under discussion should be given the benefit of the doubt. Is that unreasonable?

    This forum is too PC, and it's resulting in brain drain and loss of people who have something to offer. I'll personally upbraid anyone I want until I'm banned.
     
  14. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

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  15. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    It took someone an entire month to come up with that?
     
  16. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    lol, wut???
    No one is out to get you, my dude.
     
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