Scars, we have a few

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  1. IMP Shogun

    IMP Shogun Well-Known Member

    Throughout history there have been a series of prominent "Scarfaces" ("Say 'ello to my little friend"). Some historical, and some fictional. As the two Al's below were aptly nicknamed.

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    While they could arguably be considered mafia or cartel bosses in their own right, the following set of bosses bears a prominent cheek scar (right or left, who's counting?):

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    Domitian struck 87 A.D. den RIC 507 Roma
    IMP CAES DOMIT AVG GERM P M TR P VI / IMP XIIII COS XIII CENS P P P
    Minerva; owl at foot
    19mm 3.18g

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    Trajan, denarius struck 101-102 Roma
    IMP CAES NERVA TRAIAN AVG GERM / P M TR P COS IIII P P
    Hercules, holding lion's skin and club
    RIC 49, left shoulder drapery variety
    19mm 2.9g
    (Early buffalo head nickel model....?)

    While I have you there is an interesting story about the statue depicted on this reverse. Which may be the a depiction of one of the statues in the the Ara Maxima in Rome situated in the Forum Boarium.

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    Constantius II siliqua struck 351-355 Nicomedia
    DN CONSTANTIVS PF AVG
    VOTIS/XXX/MVLTIS/XXXX
    four lines within wreath. Mintmark SMN
    RIC VIII 81 Nicomedia
    19mm 3.13g

    Always interesting to think how these coins got their scars from test cuts to farm equipment, I'm sure it runs the gamut.

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    I tend to attract coins, people and pets that have some scars on them and have left the door open pretty wide for any scarred portraits or damaged coins (with a hypothesis!) you would like to share.
     
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  3. Only a Poor Old Man

    Only a Poor Old Man Well-Known Member

    My Artemis has a nasty gash on her right cheek, but after all she did like to play with bows and arrows :dead:

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  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  5. Shea19

    Shea19 Well-Known Member

    I don’t usually collect coins of the Roman Republic, but I loved these battle scars (bankers’ marks) on this denarius.

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    MN FONTEIUS, AR Denarius, circa 85 BC,
    Laureate head of Apollo Vejovis right/ Rev. Infant winged Genius (or Cupid) riding goat right, caps of the Dioscuri above.
     
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  6. Ryro

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  7. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    This Caracalla has a big gash on the cheek, like the classic GI Joe!

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    Caracalla as Caesar, AD 195-198.
    Roman AR denarius, 2.46 g, 18.5 mm, 12 h.
    Rome, AD 198.
    Obv: M AVR ANTON CAES PONTIF, bare-headed and draped bust, right.
    Rev: FIDES PVBLICA, Fides standing right, holding grain ears and dish of fruits.
    Refs: RIC 8, Cohen 83; Hill 321.

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  8. jdmKY

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  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Although these are Banker's Marks... WOW, they went bonkers on this Tet.

    I understand that if the coin was within the Greek World, that Bankers would not strike on Athena's face, as it would be an affront to the Goddess. However, they had no compunction to slam a mark or slice between the Owl's eyes, just to snub the City of Athens.

    I understand that if they were slammed in the Face, they probably were circulating outside the Greek World. Cool... as intended, they were used for major commerce and trading. Maybe these were used in India or other OUTSIDE the Greek World peoples. Fun for me to hold.

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    Athens Owl Tet 16.8g 22mm x 6.5mm Late Classical 393-300 BC, Sear 2537, SNG Cop. 63
     
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  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I could NEVER imagine this Emperor EVER being in a BAR BRAWL !

    DOMITIAN

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    Domitian
    AR Denarius
    81-96 CE
    Minerva thunderbolt spear shield
    protruded chin
    COS XV CENS PPP
    RIC 726
     
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  11. jdmKY

    jdmKY Well-Known Member

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  12. Broucheion

    Broucheion Well-Known Member

    Hi All,

    Despite the cheek bump, I like my recently acquired (January) leeetle friend here.

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    Reference: Svoronos 1689, pl lix, 22-23 [4 listed]; SNG Copenhagen 633; Nicolaou & Mørkholm (1976), pl. xvii, 271 (die 48); Mørkholm (1983a), A15-p27, A15-P28, A16-P29, A16-P30, A17-P31, A17-P32, A18-P33, A18-P34, A18-P35, pl. 4, 6-7.

    - Broucheion

     
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  13. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    All posts are great thanks everyone.
     
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  14. Glen Lindwall

    Glen Lindwall New Member

    My favorite "Scarface" is "Unknown King #1" of Persis from probably the second century B.C. Unlike most Persis coins his have no inscription hence he has no name.
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    And even the fourée has the scar
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  15. jdmKY

    jdmKY Well-Known Member

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    Apparently the croc took a bite out of this one!
     
  16. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    The scars are likely the only reason I was able to afford my Didus Julianus
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    He at least held up better than his wife
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    Or daughter
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  17. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    Near Ephesus, on the western edge of modern Turkey, in Hyrcanis, Lydia they made this great portrait of Marcus Ulpius "Scarface" Trajanus
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    Lydia, Hyrcanis, Trajan (98-117), AE, M. Bettius Quintianos, magistrate
    Obv: ΑΥ ΝΕΡ ΤΡΑΙΑ ϹΕ ΓΕ ΔΑ, laureate head right
    Rev: ΥΡΚΑΝΩΝ ϹΤΡ Μ ΒΕ ΚΥΙΝΤΙΑΝΟΥ, Dionysus standing left, himation over lower limbs and shoulder, holding cantharus and resting on thyrsus
    Size: 4.23 g, 18 mm
    Ref: RPC 1949 (4 specimens)
     
  18. IMP Shogun

    IMP Shogun Well-Known Member

    That is great you can identify the Magistrate. I really like this coin and I'm a Trajan fan.
     
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  19. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

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    M. Plaetorius M.f. Cestianus. Denarius - Rome mint, c. 69 BC
    Male head right (Mercury ?) with flowing hair. Behind symbol
    M·PLAETORI – CEST·EX·S·C Winged caduceus
    18 mm, 3,86 gr
    Ref : RCV #344, RSC Plaetoria # 5, Sydenham # 807, RBW # 1453, Crawford # 405/5
    From the E.E. Clain-Stefanelli collection

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  20. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    It helps that the magistrate wrote his name on the back of the coin. I have to wonder why a town would have created such a coin, not your average local bronze, I find the portrait quite "medallic" (if that is a word) and extraordinary:
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